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| So by my reckoning they overpaid their whole team for the whole of 2009 by less than Frank Lampard earmns in 3 weeks (£420k) - if they have the money and can sustain a club let them pay it to the players!
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| Quote thepriestman85="thepriestman85"Yeah cause breaking a salary cap is even comparable to murder and robbery. Do you honestly think that’s a valid point to make?
There is a massive jump between someone sympathising with the Storm club for breaking an out of date rule like the SC and someone trying calling for the murder laws to be repealed.
It’s obvious the SC needs re adjusting as the Storm have to do things like this to keep its top players. Again I can’t see how anyone can say the Storm don’t deserve to keep every player they’ve trained, developed and invested in just because they’ve had success? It’s a backward rule that penalises teams like the Storm who not only produce top players like Inglis, Smith, Slater etc as well as turning also rans like Lima into world class ones. They’ve invested in getting the best out of these players and should be able to maximise the rewards of it for as long as they want.'"
I do agree with your last paragraph though! I just cant ever agree that if you dont like the rules you should be allowed to break them!
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| Quote Billinge_Lump="Billinge_Lump"
[uThe players were obviously in on it[/u, they had to sign the contracts that were fraudulent, [uas were the coaching staff[/u in all likelyhood, but I can't see many coming over here. Too many of them have international ambitions and with the exchange rate being poor and the overseas tax loophole being closed, it isn't as profitable to come over here now.
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It took a little longer for something like this to appear than I expected, but in the end a Saints fan didn't disappoint.
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| Personally I wouldn't want any. I think the days of highly paid world class players coming here are long gone. We need to invest in our own youth and I'd rather see us bringing through our own potentially world class players than buying Aussies on a big wage!
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| Quote Bilko="Bilko"Personally I wouldn't want any. I think the days of highly paid world class players coming here are long gone. We need to invest in our own youth and I'd rather see us bringing through our own potentially world class players than buying Aussies on a big wage!'"
But the problem arises when your own world class players want world class wages, and the Cap dictates that they can't have them unless they go somewhere else.
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| thats the problem with success it breeds greed
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| Quote Sharpy_4a="Sharpy_4a"I do agree with your last paragraph though! I just cant ever agree that if you dont like the rules you should be allowed to break them!'"
Again it’s not like I’m talking about murder, insurance or theft laws I’m talking about a sporting cap which holds a business/club back for the benefits of its competitors.
The points you agree with show the rules are plainly wrong and don’t favour the clubs doing GOOD for the game. Let’s not beat around the bush with this one the SC holds back the strong clubs, the ones that do good for the game by producing the likes of Smith, Inglis & Slater the ones that invest in top class coaches and methods.
If it punishes the good for the benefit of the lazy then the Storm are well in their rights to refuse to adhere to it. There is a term in politics called the tyranny of the majority which says what is right for the majority isn’t always the correct thing. Apartheid was voted in but isn’t acceptable same goes for slavery laws in the 60’s as well.
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| Quote Pieman="Pieman"thats the problem with success it breeds greed'"
It also breeds envy.
These boards and the tolls that come onto here still bitter over our success show how bad it can get.
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| Quote Pieman="Pieman"thats the problem with success it breeds greed'"
Or pragmatism.
I doubt anyone posting on this thread would hesitate to go to another firm if it was offering them a lot more money to do the same job they are doing now.
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| Quote thepriestman85="thepriestman85"Again it’s not like I’m talking about murder, insurance or theft laws I’m talking about a sporting cap which holds a business/club back for the benefits of its competitors.
The points you agree with show the rules are plainly wrong and don’t favour the clubs doing GOOD for the game. Let’s not beat around the bush with this one the SC holds back the strong clubs, the ones that do good for the game by producing the likes of Smith, Inglis & Slater the ones that invest in top class coaches and methods.
If it punishes the good for the benefit of the lazy then the Storm are well in their rights to refuse to adhere to it. There is a term in politics called the tyranny of the majority which says what is right for the majority isn’t always the correct thing. Apartheid was voted in but isn’t acceptable same goes for slavery laws in the 60’s as well.'"
But they are breaking the law arnt they? I dont know if they have, not seen there books (either of them), however if the players arnt declaring the extra monies isnt that defrauding tax? I dont know but it cant be as clean as just a sport issue.
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| Quote Sharpy_4a="Sharpy_4a"But they are breaking the law arnt they? I dont know if they have, not seen there books (either of them), however if the players arnt declaring the extra monies isnt that defrauding tax? I dont know but it cant be as clean as just a sport issue.'"
I guess they are but why are they doing it?
Is it cause they are risking their lively hoods and freedom to break tax laws or do they have to keep it secret because the NRL won’t allow them all to have both loyalty AND financial rewards?
I really think it’s time we stopped and looked at the negative impacts the SC has on our game.
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