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Quote: Finfin "What was the debt when Whelan sold - the impression is that he was using us as a tax loss leader - ie only the minimum of income was put through the rugby club's books and income from various sources was routed to other areas in Whelan's empire (all legal I may add).'"


You cant choose where to put your income. If Wigan RLFC took £2million in gate receipts, then it goes through the books of Wigan RLFC limited company. By the same token, if Wigan RLFC paid out £2million in wages, its an expense in the books of Wigan RLFC limited company. Of course there are ways of moving income and expenses around but these have to be legit and reasonable. For example, Whelans holding company might have charged Wigan RLFC for use of office space or consultancy, but it has to be a reasonable amount. You cant just charge what you want to maximise profit/losses. Whelan would have been using any loss made in the limited company of wigan RLFC against profits made in his other companies that were in the same group. However, I am assuming that Wigan RLFC is no longer part of a group so any losses made will just accumulate until the company makes profits. Unless IL has restructured his companies to include Wigan RLFC.

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Quote: Sonny Nickle "Who are the main creditors? The directors? If the Directors Loans were converted to issued share capital, would the company be solvent?'"


There is a loan from the parent company of £1m and what looks like a loan from IL for £2m. Can't say for sure if this is IL as it is only the abbreviated accounts which get filed so there is no related party transactions note.

I should point out one of the other creditors is actually deferred income of £833k which isn't money owed to anyone just a timing difference over revenue recognition i.e. I would imagine as the accounts go to November this will mainly consist of season ticket sales to November for the following season and perhaps some sponsorship monies?

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Bradford are not in debt, we have money in the bank thanks to Bradford Council paying us £4m+ in 2003 to maintain Odsal ourselves. We posted a profit of £250k+ in 06 £200k+ in 07 and lost £16k last year, Hood as sorted the finances out and we are run to break even every year

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Didn't Wigan's last published accounts have the benefit of Whelan writing-off a £1m loan? Its a good job that DW is still willing to be so charitable to his football club's junior tenants otherwise you'd had been crippled if he'd a requested immediate re-payment instead, no assets to borrow against.

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Quote: Stinky Turner "Didn't Wigan's last published accounts have the benefit of Whelan writing-off a £1m loan? Its a good job that DW is still willing to be so charitable to his football club's junior tenants otherwise you'd had been crippled if he'd a requested immediate re-payment instead, no assets to borrow against.'"


If that's true, there must have been something in it for Whelan. He doesn't do "charitable" I'm afraid.

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Quote: Stinky Turner "Didn't Wigan's last published accounts have the benefit of Whelan writing-off a £1m loan? Its a good job that DW is still willing to be so charitable to his football club's junior tenants otherwise you'd had been crippled if he'd a requested immediate re-payment instead, no assets to borrow against.'"



Are you sure about that?

I think you'll find they have.

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