Given the problem he has building a squad should we lend him a few players?

If so who?

Fringe players to give experience , Stu Howarth, Ben Davies, Josh Vievers, Sam Gee, Neil Holland and John Walker on one year deals.

Some of these are I believe earmarked for loan deals.

Short term (dual registration) Liam Farrell, Darrel Goulding, Shaun Ainscough, Mickey McIlorum.

Personally I believe we should give Noble some respect when he comes back with the Crusaders, for the job he did at Wigan, a mild reception though, lets not go too overboard.

As for loan players, Pryce & Goulding probably, and maybe a couple of the reserves. But I think we should let MM monitor the players development, before we farm them out.

the one thing i will always praise Noble for is his integrity. in a game tarnished with ego's he acted superbly through a situation that was badly managed by IL. We were unfortunate not to be in the grand final last season and when you look at the embarassing situation surrounding Noble and his future, how he managed to get what he did out of the team is astounding. I agree that he should be given a round of applause for what he achieved. He may not have taken us back to the top but he came pretty dam close with a team that to be honest isn't good enough.
we are not in the eighties where we had a right to win everything. we live in an era when 4 or 5 teams are as good if not better than us. our time will come again and i feel we are very close but lets get out of this mentality we have a right to win and expect to challenge because we are wigan. all teams around us are developing as well and we need to do more. i honestly feel we will be the next leeds, maybe in the next 2-3 seasons but lets support what we have, this nucleus of young talent and give it time to develop into a home grown championship winning side.

How can you be certain it was all of IL's doing?

Murphy, Hughes and millward.

I'll never understand the argument that if you're not happy with the way Wigan are playing that's because you're living in the past and think we have a right to win everything.

That really is the kind of statement trolls come out with.

As fans, we're surely experienced enough to recognise that, during the three and a half years of Brian Noble's tenure, the Wigan team performed poorly for most of the time. That was obvious to me regardless of the results (which weren't that good anyway if we're honest - we got to loads of semis under him, but were embarrassingly trashed in all of them, so in truth we never really got near a final, let alone won one).

As for his being mistreated, maybe he was and maybe he wasn't. We'll never really know, but I'm glad we've got the outcome we have. I'd be far less happy about 2010 if Nobby and his crowd were still in charge.

By all means be polite to him on his return, but let's also keep some perspective about what really matters. For Wigan to continue to exist at their current level, they had to improve significantly. That's all there was to it.

Stuart Raper won us our last trophy with side expected to lose to Saints with such mega stars as Julian O'niel in it yet he is rarely mentioned on these boards. Granted Noble was our coach for the last three and a half seasons and Raper has been gone for some time but I just don't get the deference some fans have for Nobby. And I think deference is the right word to use as that is how I see it.

He saved us from relegation but that was in 2006 and we have had no success under him at all since then and the obvious revolution off the pitch that is going on points to the fact things were not run that well off-field either.

He just hasn't been that good a coach for Wigan so as previously mentioned there is no need to be disrespectful but I don't see any need to welcome him as some sort of former coaching great of ours because he just wasn't.

Dave

There was a lot more to the "he saved us from relegation" argument as well.
not least of which was the fact that we (at the very least) found a loophole in the Salary Cap and brought in Dobson and Fielden.
We went from having no money for one coach to spend resulting in shopping at Lidl / aldi to having loads of the stuff to splash out and go to Harrods. Some people then wonder why we got a better standard of signing!

where did i say that. i never said that if we are not happy with the way we play we are living in the past. i stated that in the eighties we were head and shoulders above everyone and were expected to win everything. As for trolling, why would i do that on the board of a club i have followed and supported for 25 years. Get a grip.

i am simply pointing out that we are not good enough at the moment. the team isn't good enough and other teams are developing around as well. we need to develop to higher standard and quicker to make us a championship winning side.

the time was right for nobby to go, and although we haven't won anything look at the team he had when he arrived and the team hes left us with. great youngsters mixed with some very good experienced players that could quite easily have made the grand final last season if not for some dubious decision and a little bit of bad luck. we were not trashed in all our semis as you put it. the catalans one was embarrasing and our first semi against leeds we were out played, but apart from a twenty minute spell against warrington i felt we were as good as the team we were playing against and didn't get the rub of the green. games that could have gone either way.

no one can argue the intergrity he handled himself with. the media reports and comments made by IL suggested that Nobby was left dangling over his future. none of us know for sure but the evidence appeared to be there. Overall i am reasonably happy with the last three years and i'm extremely excited about what MM can do with the foundations that Noble has put in place and for that i am thankful.