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Good article/match report here

rlhttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/rugby_union/article6946642.ecerl

It's also good to see the positive attitude they have towards him and that it was ex-league players scoring the main points in the game; Ashton, Hape and Myler

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Just liked to blow his own trumpet rather than keep his feet on the ground. Might of been one of the ones Rads was talking about when he mentioned young lads walking around town as if they were "Johnny Big Time" cos they'd played a few first team games. I appreciate confidence in yourself, all the top players have it but not cockiness and thinking your more special than you are. With a better coach he'd changed in a flash

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Quote: Wight Pie "Because they a) have a far larger pool of players than we (RL) do and b) if you believe the press have an unending pot of cash with which to develop that pool of players.

The fly in that ointment is that they are constantly targeting RL for players and were it not for the contributions of a RL great and some RL coaches would have lost the world cup final in 2003 so they may have a larger pool but the quality and talent is dreadful.

Getting back to Ashton though my mate says he could be the best back they have had in the last 10 to 15 years which is some claim when you look at the backs Nothampton have had in that time.

To be honest good luck to him but I honestly don't care about him.'"


large pool but poor quality and all the money is doing is overpaying average players, just look at england all high earners but shocking in respect to basic rugby skills.

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Quote: tugglesf78 "I know that there has always been talk of Ashtons poor attitude, but what actually happened?. Does Rad's make any mention of it in his Biography?.

I am not saying that he never has a bad attitude, no smoke without fire. what i want to hear is all the juicy gossip!!

PM's appreciated'"


I know Phil Bailey punched him at the Oasis gig in Manchester this year because he was being a coc[ik[/i..

(this is piemandan, but my Dad didn't log out.. Makes more sense coming from him though)

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Quote: Mother Feka "Not on your own. I would take him back n'all.

If he had stayed we wouldnt have had to put up with Mathers
But Mathers had a great attitude icon_lol.gif

As a couple have already mentioned you can have a bad attitude and still be a good player. Long is the prime example.

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The problem is if he became disruptive to the team and upset the balance of the squad.

Players like Long are prime pr!cks and he is not the only one but usually they are the joker and despite there ego are loved by there team mates/peers even if some of there opponents and fans cannot stand them.

I have a feeling the bad attitude is one more born out of his interactions with the fans, he seems to be a pretty popular member of the Northampton squad from what i have heard.

I understand that his attitude at Wigan was not the best, his ego was causing disruption but sadly it was allowed to, in my opinion in Union he has been treated in far better way, ie dropped when he seemed to be getting too big for his boots.

In my opinion he has been a great loss to Wigan and our code. I doubt under the new regime he would have been allowed to become a disruption to the squad that it is claimed he became.

Britain lacks true athletes in our code and when we find one, they are invariable linked to Union or head to Union, and the concern is that this is happening when they are still developing.

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