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I think its a couple of seasons too soon as wigan still dont have a strong enough first 17. The pack isnt really that strong, certainly no where near the packs of Leeds, Saints and Warrington. The backs are so so. Richards is the only strong back and perhaps Gleeson if he pulls his finger out. In defense the backs are like speedbumps.

That said, you have an awesome coach who will be able to bring in the players he wants once he get Fielden and Fekas wage off the books and in Sam Tomkins you have a gamebreaker..IF..he can can kick on and stop the "step back inside" on Every play

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Quote: DaveO "Well that's were the stats (league position) won't be telling the whole story hopefully. We could end up in a similar position to 2009 but on the back of an improved performance. By this I mean if we play consistently we should win more times against sides further down the league than we have been doing but we may lose more games against sides higher up the league despite playing better overall. Net result is we end up in a similar league position but will have got their the "right" way beating the sides we are better than (on paper) and losing games to sides better than us. Odd though it sounds I think this would be far less frustrating than the total unpredictability we saw in 2009. It would also be a true reflection of where we are at if that is how it panned out.

Of course I want us win the same matches as last season and add victories from those games we tossed away and if we do its a top four finish but if we end up in a similar position but it's down to being beaten by better sides not worse ones, then I think people will see that as a step in the right direction.

Despite the fact they are unproven its amazing how many feel very optimistic about the coaches, myself included but as was mentioned on the thread about IL's stewardship, now the coaching has been sorted out the focus will switch to the squad and signings.

If we don't do better in 2010 despite what people see as a better coaching set up it's inevitable iMO the squad will start to take the blame and so the fans will look for quality signings. They will anyway IMO and the signing record under IL so far has IMO been poor and so that needs to change as well.

Dave'"


Fair enough. My interpretation of "next level" was finals/silverware not beating Castleford and Wakefield at home whilst losing to Saints at Murrayfield. Didn't realise we had become that ambitious icon_lol.gif

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Quote: DaveO "Well that's were the stats (league position) won't be telling the whole story hopefully. We could end up in a similar position to 2009 but on the back of an improved performance. By this I mean if we play consistently we should win more times against sides further down the league than we have been doing but we may lose more games against sides higher up the league despite playing better overall. Net result is we end up in a similar league position but will have got their the "right" way beating the sides we are better than (on paper) and losing games to sides better than us. Odd though it sounds I think this would be far less frustrating than the total unpredictability we saw in 2009. It would also be a true reflection of where we are at if that is how it panned out.

Of course I want us win the same matches as last season and add victories from those games we tossed away and if we do its a top four finish but if we end up in a similar position but it's down to being beaten by better sides not worse ones, then I think people will see that as a step in the right direction.

Despite the fact they are unproven its amazing how many feel very optimistic about the coaches, myself included but as was mentioned on the thread about IL's stewardship, now the coaching has been sorted out the focus will switch to the squad and signings.

If we don't do better in 2010 despite what people see as a better coaching set up it's inevitable iMO the squad will start to take the blame and so the fans will look for quality signings. They will anyway IMO and the signing record under IL so far has IMO been poor and so that needs to change as well.

Dave'"


Must say I agree but I expect us to finish higher this year.

We will not be losing against Cas, Wakey, Celtic, Hudds, Hull and Warrington in the mannor we did and some of them so early in the season.

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Great 2nd post icon_lol.gif

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Quote: MattyB "No. A season too soon I think.

A sprinkling of quality signings next year and who knows!!'"



How pleasing to re-read that, what a tremendous season we have had!

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