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Quote: jjb10 "No he has used the negativity, surrounding his contract dispute and turned it into a positive by developing a seige mentality.'"


Yeah, always used to do that at Bradford - in fact for the whole five seasons that he took us to the Grand Final, winning three. Just face it; Wigan's unrealistic expectations have cost you one of the best coaches in Super League. Hope you win it, it'd be hilarious. Because you won't win it next year under a rookie coach.

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Quote: Clearwing "Don't know if Long can be taken seriously, but if this is true it rather confirms noble's perceived mistrust of young talent.'"


Explain.

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Quote: AJ "So is reaching semi finals not challenging for trophies? Just out of interest, because I want to bare that in mind for when the new coach takes over.'"


I said [ireally[/i be challenging for trophies. To do that IMO you have to challenge from a position of strength not be doing so on a wing and a prayer hoping you are not too shattered due to starting from 6th.

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Quote: Clearwing "news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/st_helens/8286350.stm

Don't know if Long can be taken seriously, but if this is true it rather confirms noble's perceived mistrust of young talent.'"


I've not read that article, and frankly I can't be bothered reading it. But there's a generally perceived wisdom that it's best not to take seriously anything Sean Long says.

Skilled player or not, his antics (in very recent times, not just when he was a kid) have brought embarrassment to the game as a whole. That's not something you can say Brian Noble has ever done.

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Quote: AJ "Explain.'"


icon_surprised.gifops: Sorry - for some reason I thought that Noble was involved in the approach. The article doesn't say this.

Ignore me.

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Quote: AJ "Dave,

You clearly didnt read my post then, ill try again. All coaches do that in all sports. I will list some examples

Like I said you didn't read my post properly.

I didn't think I'd have to spell it out line by line but what I said wasWith a few exceptions if a player comes in for an injured or suspended player then regardless of his age if he does well he should keep his place

Now if we had a world class player like Rooney injured and getting back fit then he would be one of the exceptions but the fact of the matter is we don't have many such players in our team do we?

How may players in RL terms do we have who are comparable to him or Ronaldo?

By the very nature of the salary cap we have some good players in the 1st 17 and some squad players. The squad players should earn their place back if their replacement has done well.

Noble treats them all as if they are Ronaldo and so therefore your analogy is pants icon_wink.gif

Also you seem to ignoring the point about competition for places. If your stance is correct and all first 17 team players are shoe in's to walk right back into the side when fit (which is the only way your post can be taken) there is none.

Dave

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