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I understand what your saying DaveO about 1 game season to 21 game season with Sam T - but haven't we all been saying this about Sam for years - "If your good enough your old enough"?

FWIW I don't think it's been terrific handling but what choice did BN have sometimes? When Smith was playing awfully he had to put Sam T or he'd be crucified - then Smith get's injured - step up Sam T again.

Who else would there be to play there? Phelps? Gleeson? That would involve a complicated squad rotation when with Sam waiting in the wings, there is very little need for it.

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Quote: 100% Warrior "I understand what your saying DaveO about 1 game season to 21 game season with Sam T - but haven't we all been saying this about Sam for years - "If your good enough your old enough"?

FWIW I don't think it's been terrific handling but what choice did BN have sometimes? When Smith was playing awfully he had to put Sam T or he'd be crucified - then Smith get's injured - step up Sam T again.

Who else would there be to play there? Phelps? Gleeson? That would involve a complicated squad rotation when with Sam waiting in the wings, there is very little need for it.'"


There is no one else but the myth is that Noble would bring players on gradually while the reality is as your post illustrates that he reacts to events rather than adopting a planned introduction of the players.

Yes his hand has been forced this season but if he had given Sam T some runs out last season then it would not be 1 v 21 would it?

Ainscough has played 11 games all at the start of the season and again that selection was forced on Noble. Now Richards and Roberts are there do you see Noble resting one of them to give him some more experience of a higher standard than the reserves? I don't and the criticism is he never has done this sort of thing. At the moment I don't think he can because having lost 10 games already we can't afford to lose any more but when there have been opportunities in previous seasons instead Noble has chosen to stick with players like Colbon out of position.

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Quote: DaveO "There is no one else but the myth is that Noble would bring players on gradually while the reality is as your post illustrates that he reacts to events rather than adopting a planned introduction of the players.'"


I agree but the one player I think he has done a fairly decent job with is Mossop. He introduced him to SL, realised he need's more higher level experience and sent him out to Barrow and Huds and he's come back alot better player for it.

It's Darrell Goulding I really feel has been brought on poorly by Noble - this lad has bags of potential but BN hasn't been able to get at it through his handling of the lad.

Quote: DaveO "Yes his hand has been forced this season but if he had given Sam T some runs out last season then it would not be 1 v 21 would it?'"


No your right there - but having said that we had Trent last year. In hindsight it wouldn't of been a bad idea to have ST and TB playing together. Again that's down to Noble.

Quote: DaveO "Ainscough has played 11 games all at the start of the season and again that selection was forced on Noble. Now Richards and Roberts are there do you see Noble resting one of them to give him some more experience of a higher standard than the reserves? I don't and the criticism is he never has done this sort of thing. At the moment I don't think he can because having lost 10 games already we can't afford to lose any more but when there have been opportunities in previous seasons instead Noble has chosen to stick with players like Colbon out of position.

Dave'"


With Ainscough I'm not convinced he is up to it defensively at SL level. Attacking wise he's fantastic but in defense he's a little iffy. IMO he should be out on loan when his injury heals.

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