Shaun Ainscough's drop in form, could be down himself, could be Noble, could be Mathers, could be the fact a deal to go to another club is affecting him, who knows apart from him.

But I don't beleive it's Noble incident

Our form of the last 2 games shows that we are a good club in facing tricky circumstances, we can come through the other side better than most. If we play our young guns in big games I think they can come through for us. It's not ideal but I am not worried just yet.

Does any of this diatribe address the point I made in my post that Noble was wrong to say what he said? No.

Do you spend your time canvassing opinion in pubs and clubs? I have no idea but I am sure the board would be interested to know if that is how you spend your spare time.

As to the jibe about the Noble fan club, given you are so quick to interject from the sidelines about my posts offering nothing to the debate you will have to pardon me for having a little dig back.

Whenever someone raises a point about stuff you disagree with your only response is to go flying off at a tangent. I have not yet seen a coherent argument from you as to why Noble is a good Wigan coach (note the word Wigan in this sentence).

Dave

Because Dave,

When anyone disagrees with anything you have to say you claim, as you have done above, that none of the posters comments answer what you asked, you try to belittle them, you ignore any points they make of relevance to promote your own egotistical views etc etc etc.

When I do go to Pubs and clubs, and I don't know what your trying to infer above, I listen and talk and disagree & agree with people who have played the game and coached at Amateur & Professional for 20/30/40/50 years and most of the time they don't resolve to veiled threats and sarcastic Know it all Jibes like some do on here!
If they did they'd get knocked on their s by their own mates, but either way I know their thoughts on the game are more informed than yours will ever be!

As for why Noble is a good "Wigan" coach! (I have noted the word Wigan and I'll ask you "Why does it make it any different that he's a "Wigan" coach"?)

I have many reasons why I think he's a good coach and many why I think is time may be up & better spent elsewhere.

TBH they would be wasted on you as always you will choose to Highlight every one that backs your "Noble Out" campaign and ignore any that may show him in a good light!
You take pessimism way to far!

Has there been any official news on the injurys yet? or does anyone know how long we will be with out them?

Regards Ainscough i make no secret of how good i think he is and will be clearly he has flaws but who does not?

His performances in the lower grades have never been consistently wonderful. I think he has played some unbelievable stuff one week and then be very average the next, i think this is more down to the level he is playing at, and partly his attitude to playing it ie that he is too good for it and sometimes he does not get up for it or apply himself fully. I am not defending his attitude or at least the way i see it, but it does seem to me to be the case.

I would not personally read too much into his lower grade performances because of this, although i think it does show a lack of maturity in his attitude.

Roberts in my opinion is also good value for his place at the moment, although i still think long term his position will be 1 for us, he does seem to be playing much more like a 1 of late with some of his kick chases for example and his positioning on the field joining the line inside his centre at times.

Within the space of 2 weeks we have lost 4 players:

Hock - Gone

Smith - Possibly season over, scan this week will decide

Lockers - 6 Weeks

Micky Mac - 6 Weeks.

Make it five.
Hansen suspected broken hand, 4 - 6 weeks.

Make it six
O'Carroll, needs another op.

6-8 weeks.

Time for Mossop to return if that is the case.

Fair play to the lad for comming back on when we were short.

This is the perfect oppertunity to get Mossop back and give Farrell a run. it will do them the world of good to get some games under there belt prior to next season.

it allows TL to get a bit of a run as a 9 and will allow Pryce a run either at (if gleeson is moved to 6) or at 2nd row ?? (i feel the extra intensity of the position will help his fitness no end).
I think some good can come from this situation

Could be looking at both Mossop and Farrell in the 17 next week, one in fact will probably start with Bailey and Tomkins.

Not really sure what to do with the hooking role - I suppose you could play Leuluai there, move Phelps to the halves, Roberts to fullback and Ainscough/Pryce to the wings. Alternatively you could play Gleeson in the halves although I personally wouldn't do that.

Disappointing news with the injuries but exciting in a way that we'll see some new faces and a fresh structure to the side, be interesting to see how we cope. Certainly if there was one area to have an injury crisis, the second row would be the one where we're most able to cope.