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| is that poor recruitment or poor coaching/relations within the camp...??
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| Quote PWils="PWils"is that poor recruitment or poor coaching/relations within the camp...??'"
Interesting point, maybe a combo of both or different circumstances for different players, problem is the result is the same-poop!
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"Riddell is still poop thou. Just highlights poor recruitment.'"
He's still one of your better signings..... 
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| Quote Connor The Warrior="Connor The Warrior"
You never hear of any other chairman spouting off about who HE is going to sign.
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Mishter Gawwy Hewwington
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| Quote Connor The Warrior="Connor The Warrior"Ho can you call the guy $hite. Look at the guys track record. What has he done in the game.
To be honest, i was shouting for his head, but the Hock thing shows the players are to blame for this mess.
How can Noble manage a bunch like we have????
Let Noble sign the right players and he will do a job.
You never hear of any other chairman spouting off about who HE is going to sign.
Does The Saints chairman do??'"
He was actually one of the few who you could rely on to play well.
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| Paea, Tronc Myler and Orford, at the expense of Hock, Bailey, Smith and Phelps/Carmont.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"Paea, Tronc Myler and Orford, at the expense of Hock, Bailey, Smith and Phelps/Carmont.'" 
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| Trouble is, even if we wanted to replace Gaz for the rest of this year, we can't.
If/when the B sample comes back positive (it's extremely rare that it disagrees with the A sample), we can sack him from the playing squad with no compensation necessary.
However, we still can't bring anyone in to replace him due to the way the salary cap works.
So say for example that Hock earned £100k and we've paid him for 2/3 of the season, that means that we've spent £67k (ish), and have £33k freed up for this year.
BUT (and just like Feka, it's a big butt) - If we brought someone in for 1/3 of the season and paid him the remaining £33k of Hock's contract, we would have to declare the full £100k AGAIN on the Salary cap, as a full year's worth of wages has to be accounted for.
That means that covering Hock's position would cost us £166k for a £100k player.
So basically, we're screwed for this year for that player - Thanks Gaz.
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| Quote Pie Eyed="Pie Eyed":1odogga4Trouble is, even if we wanted to replace Gaz for the rest of this year, we can't.
If/when the B sample comes back positive (it's extremely rare that it disagrees with the A sample), we can sack him from the playing squad with no compensation necessary.
However, we still can't bring anyone in to replace him due to the way the salary cap works.
So say for example that Hock earned £100k and we've paid him for 2/3 of the season, that means that we've spent £67k (ish), and have £33k freed up for this year.
:1odogga4BUT:1odogga4 (and just like Feka, it's a big butt) - If we brought someone in for 1/3 of the season and paid him the remaining £33k of Hock's contract, we would have to declare :1odogga4the full £100k AGAIN:1odogga4 on the Salary cap, as a :1odogga4full year's:1odogga4 worth of wages has to be accounted for.
That means that covering Hock's position would cost us £166k for a £100k player.
So basically, we're screwed for this year for that player - Thanks Gaz.'" because he was too injured. Same as what Wire did with Reardon.
He is taken off the cap.
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| If Hock gets a 2 year ban, and we don't sack him, do his wages still count on the cap?
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| Quote Katrina="Katrina"If Hock gets a 2 year ban, and we don't sack him, do his wages still count on the cap?'"
i think its the wording is wrong, i think us "sacking him" still enables us to hold his registration? Basically i'm not sure which way they do it, but essentially there is a way that hock does not count on the cap and we still hold his registration.
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