I wouldn't say it was IL fault for ignoring recruitment of a good pack. I am sure IL would have passed some of this responsibility to BN as he brought in Fielden who is the main cause of the problem.

BN is ultimately responsible for this problem because he has maxed out the budget for the pack with a prop who can be a good squad player but not the leader we really need.

IL will probably need a large chunk of the salary cap for this 'leader' which probably isn't available at the moment. This hasn't been helped by the recruitment of Amos, Gleeson & Riddell. These players have come available at the wrong time when we really needed a leader but I agree with IL decision to recruit these players now and not let the opportunities pass.

IL will be looking for long term solutions. The backs are now sorted! The forwards need more recruitment / replacements. We can't have everything all at once and we need to take our recruitment opportunities when we can, even if this leaves us with a short term problem. I can't criticise IL yet. If we don't recruit a leader when the opportunity comes available I will then start my criticism.

Again that depends on who was available, though I do agree with you on the partnership not looking good, there aren't a great deal of quality 6's around. In that respect I think that we are lucky at Saints to have a decent SO currently (I know that may spark some debate, but Pryce has been consistently the most effective SO in SL for the last 3 years, Barrett only stepped up to the plate for you in the play offs IMO), with the possiblility of Wheeler also stepping up into the first team.



Now, now, don't start getting [itoo[/i excitable

And they always will be judged on their performance, nothing will change that.

Excuses eventually run out.

But there are plenty of people who are.

For what it's worth, IL also gets slagged off in some quarters for not keeping the fans informed enough.

How anyone can ever get the vote of approval at Wigan is beyond me.

I like roberts, don't really understand why he's been criticised after his last 3/4 games. Yes, he was off the pace the first few, but he hadn't had a preseason due to injury, and was coming straight into the team [with bailey as his centre].


How many tries have been scored down that side with gleeson there? how many chances has roberts not put away? He has also had a couple of broken field runs where he has made 50m and given us territory and momentum.

Even though i will get laughed at, I would put him in ahead of Richards at the minute, and i love richards [in a totally manly way of course], even if you include the goal kicking at the minute.

I think imo and also by listening to fans around me its plain to see. were playing behind a beaten pack every week.therefore always putting to much pressure on the rest of the team to keep pulling us out of the s**t. the prioritys got to be two new no nonsense props.unfortunatly that aint guna happen this year.so we've just gotta put up with it till. roll on 2010.