The original poster mentioned dislike at the negative singing. Its interesting how quickly this turned into an attack at people who sing how great we are and clap meaninglessly.... surely there is a whole spectrum inbetween?? You might not like what you are seeing, and many people sit head in hands or arms folded or whatever, no need to clap and cheer. But I still get the point as to why there is a need to sing such negative songs at them either - we still have a role to play in motivating them?

Just an observation that this started as a "why sing negative songs/abuse" and turned into a "why happy clap".... whereas the majority probably think neither are the most appropriate.....there is a vast range of options in the middle?!

Maybe it will work ?????

Take last season, the home drubbing against Huddersfield, the south and east stands at the JJB joined in with a "your not fit to wear the shirt" which the players took personally, infact i remember them the week after going of the pitch without clapping the speccies as they usually do. They seemed to have a kick up the backside after this point and started to move in the right direction.

Its the same in any job, if your bad at it, or your not performing you should expect to get told. Unfortunatly being a pro RL player who have plenty of people who are willing to do so.

Half the Wigan fans have simple given up and accepted that we are no longer good enough, these are the ones who were singing "greatest club in the world" when we have just conceeded 36 unanswered points on monday night.

The other half are NOT willing to accept it, and this is when the Wigan fans started to clash after the game on Monday, i heard several slanging matches between fans, and one that almost boiled over into someone physical.

Unfortunately that kick up the backside has only lasted till now...

We're sh*t. Simple as.

That squad is the best Nobby has ever compiled according to the man himself......on paper possibly......on the pitch not a fu*cking chance.

I won't boo a sh*te performance but I won't clap one either.

Oh and Carney's Babe - word of advice - learn to spell players names before ranting at how much of a fan you are compared to someone else.

Singing after we let 36 in without reply baffled me i remember but hey, thats how different people deal with adversity.
I dont remember seeing any scuffling/slanging amongst ourselves as one or two people have said. though i was in deep thought wondering how on earth our manager is gonna talk his way out of this one whilst queueing to get out.... but he did

Im a better fan than you thread I see?

Wasnt in Perpy this time but could understand a frustration to the players performance as a team. Apart from that I cant comment on what was chanted.

Fans can sing what they want but there is a line between perhaps unhappiness/frustrative chants and degradable/ unspirited chants.

Im sure 99% of fans aren't* soo low, we'll always have a few and a few more jumping on a bandwagon. What i've heard this season (not much tbh) it hasn't been distasteful.