Quote tank123="tank123"Gleeson coming to us is not as unplanned as people think. IL said we had a signning in the pipeline and its was quality rather than quantity and that was during the 1st week of the season or even before then.'"
Gleeson has only become available with the arrival of Tony Smith at Warrington. To suggest we have been working on signing Gleeson since the start of the season is ridiculous.
Quote tank123RE: Prop
Next season Lynch is available and is a better player than Carvell. Though Carvell is a good player id rather we get Lynch. I find it quite ironic its the people that want Noble out that are saying its not what we need. When we dont rush in and sign a player the club gets hammered by some. Yes we need a prop and we need at least 1 prop that can play 50-60 min and get some forward momentum going.'"
Then if we are prepared to pay a transfer fee and can afford a player like Gleeson we should have gone for a prop. It is what we need now.
Quote tank123Roberts was needed this season as id guess Noble knew that Mathers was not good enough so got his winger sorted and then had Richards ready to go to FB. '"
Of course it's all a master plan, no really
Quote tank123Cap situation meant that we might have to wait to get Gleeson as not to go over it. Ainscough coming in and and doing the job he has done has been a massive bonus. But then again Noble will not get any credit for this. '"
Of course he won't because he does not deserve any! You know as well as I do he only got games due to circumstance not as a planned introduction. Last season Noble's excuse for not playing either of them was "duty of care". How he squares that with his recent comments saying it's not about age but ability I really don't know. It's a U turn any politician would be proud of.
Quote tank123Tomkins was enforced on him though by Smiths inability to defend.
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Exactly!
Quote tank123I still cant believe people think that Goulding will become a great player. Hes only going to be mediocre hes had chance. The same chances Ainscough and Tomkins had.Goulding has played a few decnet games but hes played more poor ones than good ones and is not in the same class as Gleeson and never will be. You can tell a good player even at a young age. '"
Goulding had half a season in 2008 followed by 2 more games then 2 games in 2009. You are far too quick to judge. I can't believe you are prepared to write off a young player age 21 based on so few games.
Quote tank123If we had signed Bird then Tomkins would not get his chance and again the usual people would be complaining that we took an Australian player with problems instead of giving a homegrown player a chance.
Its become such a joke the people who contradictes themselves on here. Especially we did not sign Bird. Bird signs gets a permit Tomkins walks away from the club sooner rather than later. And its the same people who says we dont give homegrown a chance.'"
You totally miss the point. Whether Tomkins would get a game or not, Noble wanted Bird and the club tried to get him. They could not because they took Roberts a year early. The merits or otherwise of getting Bird are not what I am on about but Wigan being hamstrung on moving for Bird because they reacted to the fact Roberts came available early is.
Dave