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| Quote Alex BP'="Alex BP'"A pretty controversial and personal post but it's my opinion.'"
Indeed. Is this just you assuming or has something else led you to believe this?
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| Quote alanpdodd="alanpdodd"You are not wrong there, I could even argue it's racist with those Islanders and their island ways.'"
Not how clue how you came to that conclusion.  But what I meant is that most Islanders have proved theirselves in the NRL or NZ and have earned theirselves good, full time contracts in the UK and they aren't usually at risk of being dropped. I sometimes think Hansen likes act as though he has that type of background opposed to being a locally raised lad, playing Rugby League at Folly Lane and coming through the ranks at Wigan.
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| [u Tries [/u
Hansen - 2 =2nd
Hock - 3 1st
Tomkins - 2 =2nd
Lockers - 0 4th
[u Try Assists [/u
Hansen - 1 =2nd
Hock - 1 =2nd
Tomkins - 1 =2nd
Lockers - 2 1st
[u Total Meters [/u
Hansen - 425 4th
Hock - 835 1st
Tomkins - 577 3rd
Lockers - 624 2nd
[u Meters per Carry [/u
Hansen - 7.20 3rd
Hock - 7.66 1st
Tomkins - 7.40 2nd
Lockers - 6.86 4th
[u Tackles [/u
Hansen - 204 2nd
Hock - 136 4th
Tomkins - 193 3rd
Lockers - 298 1st
[u Offloads/Tackle Busts [/u
Hansen - 3/7 4th
Hock - 23/33 1st
Tomkins - 8/7 3rd
Lockers - 10/12 2nd
[u Errors/Missed Tackles/Penalties [/u
Hansen - 6/13/4 2nd
Hock - 12/23/2 4th
Tomkins - 5/11/3 1st
Lockers - 9/14/10 3rd
Hock - 1+2+1+1+4+1+4 = 14 1st
Tomkins - 2+2+3+2+3+3+1 = 16 2nd
Lockers - 4+1+2+4+1+2+3 = 17 3rd
Hansen - 2+2+4+3+2+4+2 = 19 4th
Hansen dropped  ...wow I am bored
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| A good post Alex with plenty insight there.
The stats post by Bovrick is excellent and the case for dropping him is there.
My version is far more simple, last Friday we had only one prop who bust a tackle that I saw, Feka. We had only two forwards who bust a tackle, Hock plus Feka.
This is why our pack is coming off second best, we are simply not gaining the ground by busting the opposition forwards. We do not have competition for props as we only now have four with O'C injured.
We do have competition for places is the back row so start there.
Hansen to be replaced by one of the lads mentioned, perhaps two by standing Gaz Hock down. We are going to need Gaz big time v Saints & Cats.
Our real need are two props but unless we have signings we have to go with what we've got. Our back row could do with livening up so bring in Farrell, Mossop or Flanagan.
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| Dont rate Hansen at all. Never have. You can shove your stats where they dont shine cos they dont show the bigger picture.
He works hard in defence yes but offers nout else.
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| Quote Alex BP'="Alex BP'"Not how clue how you came to that conclusion.
But what I meant is that most Islanders have proved theirselves in the NRL or NZ and have earned theirselves good, full time contracts in the UK and they aren't usually at risk of being dropped. I sometimes think Hansen likes act as though he has that type of background opposed to being a locally raised lad, playing Rugby League at Folly Lane and coming through the ranks at Wigan.'"
Did I say that I came to that conclusion? I could argue it though particually as you are using words like "homies" which has a distict racial conataion to it, hence why I said I could argue...
Anyway, don't all players get to this stage where they are a good senior solid dependable player that do little wrong and may appear to be realxed in their position? I don't see why his racial background comes into his current attitude, becasue as you say he has fallen in with his "homies".
As it is, he has come through the accademy, proven himself at club and international level and is a solid clubv player who does little wrong and that may well be why he doesn't get dropped.
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| Quote - Neil -="- Neil -"Dont rate Hansen at all. Never have. You can shove your stats where they dont shine cos they dont show the bigger picture.
He works hard in defence yes but offers nout else.'"
Err...thats EXACTLY what the stats show 
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| Quote Bovrick="Bovrick"Err...thats EXACTLY what the stats show
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To be honest I didnt look at your stats but there are posters on here who swear by them...
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| Quote alanpdodd="alanpdodd"Did I say that I came to that conclusion? I could argue it though particually as you are using words like "homies" which has a distict racial conataion to it, hence why I said I could argue...
Anyway, don't all players get to this stage where they are a good senior solid dependable player that do little wrong and may appear to be realxed in their position? I don't see why his racial background comes into his current attitude, becasue as you say he has fallen in with his "homies".
As it is, he has come through the accademy, proven himself at club and international level and is a solid clubv player who does little wrong and that may well be why he doesn't get dropped.'"
Fair enough, but racism doesn't come into at all. I said 'homies' as the words stems from home-boys as in friends from back home whom Feka and Leuluai are to Hansen as they are from the area where he was born, Samoa/New Zealand.
Anyway, regardless if he's 'proven himself' at international level and how 'solid' he is...For me, isn't offering anymore then a defesive display. I'd like to see more attacking outside, attacking gaps and good hands. At the moment he is just focused on getting the ball and running direct at the defence without using his feet, brain or hands. He knows how to run angles, he has proven that in past season when attacking the trylines but if he more 20 yards away from the tryline, he's pretty ineffective.
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| Quote Alex BP'="Alex BP'"running direct at the defence without using his feet'"
I would keep him in the team just to see him do that every week! 
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