These trains, and those from Bolton, are pretty reliable and usually clean and comfortable. The Bolton ones usually start from Manchester Airport and fair shift.

If getting on at Wigan, change at Lancaster and not Preston as you don't have to move platform to get your connection. Plus at Lancaster you'll see the Giant Axe ground and (what remains of) Quay Meadow, where Wigan and England legend Jim Leytham first learned the game.

It's also worth considering getting on at Chorley instead as I seem to think that the price drops significantly from there.

Could be talking about Knowsley Rd there pal

I didnt mean to mislead you into believing Craven Park was that bad.

I didnt see a single woman wearing a red vee squatting in the gents at Barrow while eating her hotdog.

That sounds like one of your Chris's DVD's that he hides under his bed!

Not found any DVDs under his bed but he has a stash of tissues that are stuck together - he reckons he blows his nose a lot in bed.