I know i just like sticking up for players who are getting a lot of stick

1 - Roberts did okay for a debut in a new team and his first game for 4 months. He wasn't good but he wasn't bad. The only time he was out of position was when he and Phelps were both left cruelly exposed by a combination of our poor defence and the time that Drew/Obst were allowed. He certainly wasn't afraid to attack the ball.

2 - A close 2nd to Mathers IMO. Not driving in as hard as he could do and a couple of daft errors but he tackled well at least.

3 - You're joking? His first stint was just about the most organised I've seen us at dummy half for a long while. However, he clearly isn't fit enough.

www.wiganrl.com/news_full.asp?newsid=4502 How is triping only category c?!?! Lets hope its the full 4 matches though

www.wiganrl.com/news_full.asp?newsid=4502 How is triping only category c?!?! Lets hope its the full 4 matches though

no, the only way he should miss the hull game is if he cop's a ban (which i don't think he will get cause he plays for wigan)

Im pretty damn sure Mathers and Hock both got bans last year

Mathers will not be playing on Friday - whether be it by ban or by being dropped.

I hope this is true..

Paat to fullback or Famous Amos?

It is as far as I know. Should be interesting to see who they'll put at the back. Possibly since Amos has only had one game and we've always been comfortable with Pat at the back?

I would be amazed if it was Amos - given he has only just come back from injury and played 1 game for the team he is far better on the wing for now - give him chance to get match fit and used to the team.

Pat to FB is a must and a no-brainer.

In fairness, Roberts and Riddell had probably never played in such freezing conditions before in their lives. Give them a chance to settle.

Phelps and Tim Smith were also awfully poor, as was the skipper, and no one in the side played well.

Coley was at fault dropping a ball when charging out of his own 20 (immediately being replaced) and for his stupid decision to go for the try on a tap-penalty on their line, wasting six tackles. But he was having a go.

Mathers just lacks 'bottle' to me. It made me laugh when he started pushing Wakefield players after he'd been sin-binned...

He won't go for anything like a 50-50 ball (evidence when a chip-kicked bounced between him and an onrushing player and he 'ducked', Wigan being lucky that a try didn't result).

When you think back to the likes of Radlinski, Connolly, Hampson, Lydon, Edwards, Fairbairn, Tyrer, Ashby, Griffiths, Bolton, Martin Ryan ...and now this fellow is wearing the no 1 jersey !

He makes 'Doc' Murray look world-class !!!

I absolutely agree - possibly Amos could be an option in the future but certainly not now for me.