There is a big difference between living with a red card 'in the current climate' and thinking it's a red card. All being well, without ambulance chasers all over the sport, there's no way I think it's a red card but I can put up with it being one. What I can't put up with is then a guy being hit with a long ban and a big fine. The players are being battered in 3 different ways (on game day, then by being sat down and then being hit in the pocket) and the clubs, fans and the game is then missing out on seeing games between full strength teams.

The comparison with Percival is obviously a relevant one given the two red cards.

This may be red-vee tinted specs but when I look at the Percival one, he gets into a very similar position to Byrne (i.e. he's not side on looking to smash with the shoulder, he's pretty front on with right arm low and out to his side). So I don't think either are looking to deliberately lead with the shoulder for starters.

I think he sees the ball going down and almost tries to pull out of the tackle rather than completing it, with the Salford player running into him and Percival ending up bumping backwards. I guess the MRP have considered that Byrne was fully committed to an illegal tackle whilst Percival could argue he tried to pull out of a tackle after a player dropped the ball - i.e. less deliberate force in the action?

Just my take and admit it could be absolute bobbins, but that's what I see when I slow the Percy tackle down.

Either way, I think we can all probably agree that the Byrne tackle is not what 4-match bans are for.

As I said earlier mate, we all see incidents in different ways. I think the comparison with the Percival one is relevant, though, because it shows the levels of inconsistency or even incompetence. Even from your perspective (which is not as harsh as mine) there still isn't enough difference between the two to justify Byrne's being twice as bad. A revealing way to illustrate it is, according to the the disciplinary, Percy could have received 2 red cards for similar offences in that match and still only been as bad as Byrne's!

I know that's a bit of a convoluted way of looking at it but it really does show the ridiculous disparity.

You are assuming the MRP has a brain between them, that’s where your argument falls

On a serious note, I understand your view. Sadly, such infringements should be determined on pov but simply on what has happened, either two or four matches for them both.

Sat with my RedVee mate watching the Salford game, at the time I said something similar about the Percival tackle. But like NK says, a 4 match ban AND a £750 fine (when the base figure is £250), stretches credibility to the limit.

For Byrne that is.

The MRP isnt fit for purpose and we all know that

For what it's worth, I think the only challenge out of the 3 in question that had any form of intent for dirty play is the one that didn't get a ban. For me, that sums up the current mess.

Byrne had zero intent for a high tackle - 4 match ban.
Lees had no intent to bang heads with Thompson (despite the nonsense on here from someone suggesting it wasn't accidental) - 2 game ban.
Dupree deliberately elbows Lees - nothing.

Strip away the shambolic system we have; if Byrne and Lees didn't get bans this weekend and Dupree did, I genuinely don't think any RL Supporter of any club would complain.

Accidents aren't allowed to happen anymore according to the RFL disciplinary and it's all about end result. All the proof we need in regards to that is that Byrne gets 4 games for accidental contact, whereas Franklin Pele gets 3 games after opening night for trying to smash Minchella in to next month with a forearm/fist smash to the face. Intent seemingly doesn't come in to things and that's all part of the lottery it's become.

The Dupree one clearly wasn't an accident but what I will say is that the motion of what he does is to try and offer himself some form of protection. That sort of action has been getting on my nerves for a couple of years however and it's dangerous. I'd have given him one game for it tbh (and gone back and retrospectively given Matty Lees 37 games for the times he's done it this past few seasons...sorry, couldn't resist

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This.

I just wish one, or a few clubs collaborating, pushed back against the MRP in someway.