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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"Leeds yes, but Saints? We finished 1st, they finished 4th. We have won two challenge cups and two grand finals in the past 5 years and they have fluked one by default. When we have played each other over the same period we have won 12 drawn 1 lost 7, with them never winning by more than 8 points and us dishing out some thrashings. Hardly think that backs up what you are saying.
Best of luck staying in the top 8 next season by the way. Whilst Leeds, Wigan and Saints are dead certs for the top 3 with Hudds, Castleford and Catalans likely taking the next positions I genuinely think Warrington have the quality to take 7th or 8th spot with a bit of luck. Your derbys with Widnes will prove vital!
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Perhaps not St Helens then, but I was speaking over the Super League since it's existence. They have won more Grand Finals than you. Even with losing 5.
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| Quote Suzy Banyon="Suzy Banyon"I always wondered what it felt like for a bitter wolf knowing Wigan have lost more CC finals than they've even attended, could you elaborate?
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| Quote WireWireWire="WireWireWire"But your tag of the games biggest club ended 20 years ago in the mid 90's..'"
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"Leeds yes, but Saints? We finished 1st, they finished 4th.'"
No you didn't. You finished 2nd. You can't even get that right. |
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Well at least we now know that a new Castleford stadium would be a waste of money as the fans would rather see a merger with Leeds.
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| Quote WireWireWire="WireWireWire"Perhaps not St Helens then, but I was speaking over the Super League since it's existence. They have won more Grand Finals than you. Even with losing 5.
And thank you kindly, I am sure we will do okay. I look forward to seeing how Willie Isa does next year, I am sure he will absolutely rip it up like he has been doing with Widnes this year.'"
The thing is WWW you don't really want to be getting into that game do you? Because your squad isn't full of Wigan and Saints rejects at all is it? (How is Gary Wheeler doing these days?) |
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| Quote Aboveusonlypie="Aboveusonlypie"The thing is WWW you don't really want to be getting into that game do you? Because your squad isn't full of Wigan and Saints rejects at all is it? (How is Gary Wheeler doing these days?)'"
Why are you saying this like anyone would try to back Wheeler up? ALL Wire fans know he's crap and done naff all for us. But you lot now he's signed will be bigging Isa up haha. Probably like how you all for some reason pretend that Lee Mossop is anything close to being adequate let alone good. |
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| Quote WireWireWire="WireWireWire"Why are you saying this like anyone would try to back Wheeler up? ALL Wire fans know he's crap and done naff all for us. But you lot now he's signed will be bigging Isa up haha. Probably like how you all for some reason pretend that Lee Mossop is anything close to being adequate let alone good.'"
Wigan only need to tinker with the squad, such is the strength in depth. Wire require a mass clearout which they have started. This allows us to take the odd gamble with certain players if they fit the bill and the price is right.
Next years overseas players: Isa, Gelling & Tautai.
Sam Tomkins in, Bowen out.
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With regards to your comments on Lee Mossop, you know what? I half expected his shoulder to pack in early-mid season and that be it for him - career over! Early to mid season it's been obvious that he's been holding something back, all the fans could see that.
He's admitted only two weeks ago:
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Quote “To be honest, this year I’ve been a bit disappointed at times. I’ve not had the consistency in my game. I think I’ve struggled more with my shoulder than I thought I would, coming back from this one.
“It’s my third reconstruction on my right side, and physically it’s better than it’s ever been but it’s just getting the confidence in my head.
“I’ve had two or three games when I’ve had the confidence but then it’ll be knocked and I’ll have an off-game. It is getting there.
“Hopefully I can finish stronger, and build on this game against Saints - but by no means am I at my best.” '"
I tell you what this last month he has been much improved, not the finished article by any means but slowly getting back to his 2012 form*. Another good pre-season will stand him in good stead to rip into it next year.
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With regards to your comments on Lee Mossop, you know what? I half expected his shoulder to pack in early-mid season and that be it for him - career over! Early to mid season it's been obvious that he's been holding something back, all the fans could see that.
He's admitted only two weeks ago:
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Quote “To be honest, this year I’ve been a bit disappointed at times. I’ve not had the consistency in my game. I think I’ve struggled more with my shoulder than I thought I would, coming back from this one.
“It’s my third reconstruction on my right side, and physically it’s better than it’s ever been but it’s just getting the confidence in my head.
“I’ve had two or three games when I’ve had the confidence but then it’ll be knocked and I’ll have an off-game. It is getting there.
“Hopefully I can finish stronger, and build on this game against Saints - but by no means am I at my best.” '"
I tell you what this last month he has been much improved, not the finished article by any means but slowly getting back to his 2012 form*. Another good pre-season will stand him in good stead to rip into it next year.
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| Quote WireWireWire="WireWireWire"Why are you saying this like anyone would try to back Wheeler up? ALL Wire fans know he's crap and done naff all for us. But you lot now he's signed will be bigging Isa up haha. Probably like how you all for some reason pretend that Lee Mossop is anything close to being adequate let alone good.'"
Can you point to anybody bigging him up?..We are sceptical, but willing to give a chance.... Sorry to not pander to your perceived stereotype.... |
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