Because they're transient.

& for all their marketing chutzpah their business model is ultimately as fecked as Broncos.

After all what is a trip to Brussels but Leyton with knobs on?

Actually creating artificial demand in a pokey stadium could well prove to be a masterstroke of sorts.

Although I've heard rumblings of discontent from actual fans about being forced into crappier seats than Vicarage Road by sheer necessity.

I'd also like to think there's a zealot out there giving the CEO grief about the non-existent 15,000 crowds promised.

11 On the road games for the London Broncos since the start of SL......51,432 fans in total.......this seasons efforts Leyton Orient (9,271) and Gillingham FC (11,582) saw 6,774 fans in attendance....32% of the available capacity.

King Baudouin Stadium holds 42,000 for soccer matches....32% is 13,440 fans. Do you reckon Sarries will get close to that...or as I suspect, get a full house.

Here's a tip for you.......look at the opposition......look at the time to get from Paris to Brussels by Train......look at the BIGGER picture.

Smart move by sarries......a game that would have struggled to get 5k in attendance will now attract a crowd of 40k........

Knock away if you must....I am looking forward to 2013 and Gus and the back-office team .v3 disproving any of my "flim flam"....but I won't hold by breath (don't let me stop you though)

Bloody hell you've been busy overnight GF, thank god I'm not doing budget forecasts etc until next week, I've already had enough figures for one day.

Can you give us some stats on how many of your posts contain stats

100% of them miss the wood for the trees. You'd think he'd be able to see through marketing BS. Pretending another clubs fans are your own is desperate. If Gus proposed playing a home game in the M62 corridor he'd get laughed out court.

PS Up to now GF had wisely not included the massed ranks of McFly fans to back up his arguments. When the con man gets conned. Tut tut.

So to summarise.

gutterfax: "we can't carry on like this. Look what Sarries are doing, they're building for the future, why don't we copy them?"

Cowgirl Nostalgist: "We can't carry on like this. But we shouldn't copy Sarries, they're building a house of cards and heading for a fall."

Oh no it isn't. Brussels home to some great food, great beer and a nice few buildings to look at before and after the game. And it's also one of the home's of the european parliament.

Leyton wasn't when I lived near there and isn't now anywhere near as nice, beautiful nor has such nice beers as Brussels.

I suspect they'll have a lot more fans at their game than we did at our "road games". Nigel Wray must be doing something right. you don't make the millions he has being a fool, do you?

All that counts at the end of the day is what WE DO AS A CLUB! not what Sarries may do/

If the RFL are going so far with Bradford it is time they made sure London gets it right once and for all, but then again they can't even get it right themselves when it comes to marketing. If we do not have the right staff to get it right then we should look at the very few Super League Clubs that get it right as well as other sports, not be obsessed with union.

Leyton does have one advantage over Brussels though.

The slim possibility of repeat custom.

I'd be amazed if the Barnet Globetrotters glean one extra fan out of this latest stunt.

Still padding your average attendance apparently works wonders ...

I imagine that Sarries latest 'stunt' is a further step towards them being the worldwide force in Rugby Union that Manchester United are in Football.

By taking a game to France and Belgium (and I think South Africa) they are appealing to a wider RU audience as Manchester United do when they tour wherever each summer.

I applaud them for the steps they've taken. If the Broncos could get someone in with half the ideas that Saracens are coming up with, I'd be happy.

Discounting the London Double Header Saracens averaged 6,342 fans prior to their record crowd at Wembley.

Afterwards they pulled in 6,346 punters.

A figure of 250,000 pounds was quoted to rent out Wembley.

So they spent 62,500 pounds per each new fan.

& they're not a failing business no siree.

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