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Quote: Tre Cool "I'm not sure about this whole membership thing, seems like a bit of a faff around. Think Ill just pay on the door.'"


I'm inclined to agree, I can see there are a few games on the fixture list that I know I won't be able to make so I think I'll be back to being a walk up punter for the first time in a number of seasons.

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Quote: zenon "On this membership lark, is there any point in joining in February as it appears to me that with only one game scheduled, a 'member' would pay more that someone paying on the gate against Salford?'"


That's a very good point actually, I presume the month runs from first calendar day to last calendar day of month regardless of when you start as well, so if you sign-up mid-Feb you pay for all of Feb, or they'd have to pro-rata the payments during the off-season?

Personally it's not worth me signing-up to a full membership, the 3 hour plus round trip is pushing things a bit now, so I'll miss more games. I didn't make all the games in my ST for the last few seasons but renewed because with parking and kids thrown in it was still decent value even if I only got to 8 or 9 games. It may or may not be worth getting a Hive Membership, but as I will have to pick and choose my games I may be better off waiting to see what discounting gets chucked about once any initial buzz dies down (there was a big buzz when we moved to The Stoop, but I'm not getting that vibe given how far backwards we've gone since then, without wishing to be a doom monger this seems like deciding to keep the life support going on a terminal patient).

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Quote: meliferra "
Broncos assuming 15 games (including challenge cup - probably showing my ignorance here ,would also include any home friendlies).'"


Might be worth someone checking the Challenge Cup. As this money seems to go to Barnet, and we have to pay a share of any CC gate to the RFL and the opposition, I'm not sure it would be included. Unless of course the RFL are mandating it again for the round we enter at. As the free away tickets for kids seem to have gone that may be a dangerous presumption. Hopefully that one, subject to a home draw, is still there. If it is just the league games the savings start getting a little skinny unless you take advantages of the bolt ons or really value a reserved seat.

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Quote: Halfdan of t'wide embrace "Might be worth someone checking the Challenge Cup. '"
The details quite clearly say membership is for Super League games.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: mickyb1234 "Just so I am clear here Gutters! your suggestion is that we should all stop supporting the club or buy tickets and that will make it all right? you really have gone barking mad!'"

No, that's not what I suggested at all.
Fans of the club will attend games, which is expected, but it is you happily marching towards a TK Membership, grinning from ear to ear whilst handing over the cash for your 12 month membership (or you'll pay the joining fee again) like nothing has happened, that will make Gus et al feel justified in the way they have messed with the club, the business and the fans.
As many have said, 'we've moved and there's SFA we can de about it"......but to BLINDLY ACCEPT this new order is to condone the shocking way in which friends, colleagues and other members of the club staff have been treated, not to mention the total and utter disregard for the fans.

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Is Gutters the only one to see that the Emperors new attire is in the buff?

Well said that man. I will of course will continue support the team but with no illusions as to the path we are on currently.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Listening to New England by Billy Bragg......how apt.

"I don't feel bad about letting you go.......I just feel sad about letting you know."

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Quote: Kelvin's Ferret "That's a very good point actually, I presume the month runs from first calendar day to last calendar day of month regardless of when you start as well, so if you sign-up mid-Feb you pay for all of Feb, or they'd have to pro-rata the payments during the off-season?

Personally it's not worth me signing-up to a full membership, the 3 hour plus round trip is pushing things a bit now, so I'll miss more games. I didn't make all the games in my ST for the last few seasons but renewed because with parking and kids thrown in it was still decent value even if I only got to 8 or 9 games. It may or may not be worth getting a Hive Membership, but as I will have to pick and choose my games I may be better off waiting to see what discounting gets chucked about once any initial buzz dies down (there was a big buzz when we moved to The Stoop, but I'm not getting that vibe given how far backwards we've gone since then, without wishing to be a doom monger this seems like deciding to keep the life support going on a terminal patient).'"


Same for wife, son and I. Cost and time involved means we'll pick and choose games rather than go to all and probably do some away games which are not that much further than the trip to London.

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"No, that's not what I suggested at all.
Fans of the club will attend games, which is expected, but it is you happily marching towards a TK Membership, grinning from ear to ear whilst handing over the cash for your 12 month membership (or you'll pay the joining fee again)"

Where in any of my threads did I say I was going to get a membership deal?
Who says I am blindly accepting?

So if I turn up and pay to watch my team play then I am playing in to Gus's cunning plan! Whats that plan? folk watching London Broncos rugby league play rugby league.
so what are you suggesting? that I don't go because Gus is, well you decide what he is?
Tell you what we will go with your suggested plan of not condoning the club management way of doing things by not turning up! result no fans at all! result no club!
So am interested what you think! support the club or don't support em?

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: mickyb1234]So am interested what you think! support the club or don't support em?'"
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support them, but for god's sake, don't defend anything that is being delivered by the management as a beneficial new dawn....it is nothing other than a complete clusterf**k.

I want to be a London Broncos fan in 2016......a fan of a professional team flying the flag in SUPERLEAGUE for the sport.....with this convoluted hash of bollox and bullshit it isn't going to happen!
"So am interested what you think! support the club or don't support em?'"
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support them, but for god's sake, don't defend anything that is being delivered by the management as a beneficial new dawn....it is nothing other than a complete clusterf**k.

I want to be a London Broncos fan in 2016......a fan of a professional team flying the flag in SUPERLEAGUE for the sport.....with this convoluted hash of bollox and bull it isn't going to happen!

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Quote: gutterfax "
admin costs, excluding marketing costs £532,016.
Ticket and match day revenue in 2012 £321,000 .
match day costs of £222,244
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Hi GF,
So Matchday revenue - (Admin + matchday costs) = -£433,260

So if I read that correctly, if the deal with TK results in a loss of less than nearly £1/2mil then the Broncos owner is better off financially. You havent included marketing so I don't know on that score.

Do you know the answer to these questions?

How much was marketing last year?
How much is Broncos paying TK for use of Hive and for admin marketing?

Everything I've heard out of Broncos management goes on about moving to the Hive is lowering cost base and helping to make Broncos live closer to within their means but without knowing the costs this year I can't tell.

The info I've heard says Broncos rent Underhill and have Admin staff there to support the playing side. It also says Broncos pay nothing for using The Hive for first team matches and there is a deal in place that should sufficent numbers come to games then the extra revenue made is shared. I don't know who's telling the truth tbh and I don't have enough evidence to prove either way so I'd be interested to know what info you have.

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www.londonbroncosrl.com/news/515 ... tjlP59FDqA

So with Solomona now confirmed it gives us a Squad of 19, still at least 6 players short.

Apart from 2 from Wigan, the rumour mill has dried up!

Oh dear
www.londonbroncosrl.com/news/515 ... tjlP59FDqA

So with Solomona now confirmed it gives us a Squad of 19, still at least 6 players short.

Apart from 2 from Wigan, the rumour mill has dried up!

Oh dear


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Quote: The Penguin "Largely my thoughts.

I did some quick calculations yesterday. Because of the joining fee, it still works out cheaper if I go to 9 home games next year and pay on the gate, than it would be to get membership (if I stand in one of the stands behind the sticks).

It's also worth remembering that, and I think this is correct, if you stop your membership at any point and then restart it again, you have to pay another joining fee.

I think the membership model is quite clever from a business perspective, but it's not one I'll be indulging in since I am highly unlikely to watch at least a quarter of our matches. I'm not going to bother watching us play the likes of Wigan or Warrington. I've seen quite enough of us being stuffed by 50, 60 points and fail to see how any of that will change in 2014 given the squad we're putting together.'"



100% spot on, especially the last part, I'll be going to the Salford, Widnes, KR and Bradford games, plus any others I can squeeze in. But the Pies, Leeds etc, nah.

However, remember the St Helens game last season, I'm glad I changed my mind on that one! The thrill of beating one of the Big Guns is so superior to winning against sides in the bottom half, really it is.

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Quote: North London Gooner "www.londonbroncosrl.com/news/5151.php#.UtjlP59FDqA

So with Solomona now confirmed it gives us a Squad of 19, still at least 6 players short.

Apart from 2 from Wigan, the rumour mill has dried up!

Oh dear'"


I think counting 19 is being a bit generous, about half of them are not experienced players but youngsters who were thrown in and points last season because we had nobody else, even our kolpaks are reserve grade players. Scott Moore and Matt Cook will be our "old heads", and Olsi is going to be our veteran prop, it is really quite scary. I'm all for giving young players a go, but you need a mix, and unless our next 6 signings are all decent experienced players then we risk bringing the game into disrepute by fielding a team that would struggle to beat some of the better Championship sides. How is it going to look if we get battered every week, we've seen where that has led for the last couple of seasons with weak squads, and this season's squad is looking like a Championship squad?

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