Because my dear chap, you were all over me like the proverbial rash when claiming that Trailfinders was not in a nice area, but in fact in next to a nasty estate and announcing that my "error" was down to me "not being there" so to speak.
As I have since pointed out, I was well aware that the estate was across the railway tracks from the ground, making it an irrelevance when considering the house prices on Vallis Way are 740k according to Zoopla...here's a 2 bed maisonette that went for 425k 2 months ago...a 350 meter walk to the ground!
rlhttps://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detailMatching.html?prop
So, the reason your question regarding Plough Lane tickled me so, was the irony that I knew there were houses on Plough Lane.........even from 12,000 miles away HTH...

So you had time to look it up, well done. I could have done the same, I suppose I could've done what you do sometimes, state it as fact without checking. But I thought i'd ask it as a question because , well you know, it's a forum and I was sure other people would be able to confirm if I was correct. And they did. You're the only one who went on the attack.

I mentioned your remoteness when you tried to claim knowledge of what happened on match day. Why don't you google "Did Joey Grima encourage players to talk to the fans after the game?" and see how many results you get.
Not everything can be looked up on a search engine.

This is where we get into the nitty gritty of exactly what the charitable trust own.
Quite often with sports clubs, the freehold for the land is owned by a trust or other external body, but the actual stands, clubhouse, etc. are owned by the club. That enables the club to develop the ground as they need, but prevents some shyster buying the club to just to get their hands on the freehold.

If (and I realise it's a bif 'if') that is the model at Trailfinders, is it just possible that we might be offering to help fund expansion of the ground? And in the process secure ourselves a home?

Forlorn hope I know...

I'd beg to differ.


And for the record, you'd specifically have to go out of your way to cross the estate to get to the ground. It's over the railway lines and masked by a long line of very high trees......and as I have already shown, is being regenerated.
Interesting that you question my accuracy and ability to identify facts and figures from across the world but you yourself are still unsure of developments just down the road?

can I suggest a visit to Quite often with sports clubs, the freehold for the land is owned by a trust or other external body, but the actual stands, clubhouse, etc. are owned by the club. That enables the club to develop the ground as they need, but prevents some shyster buying the club to just to get their hands on the freehold.

If (and I realise it's a bif 'if') that is the model at Trailfinders, is it just possible that we might be offering to help fund expansion of the ground? And in the process secure ourselves a home?

Forlorn hope I know...'"

I said I thought Plough Lane had houses on it, and you went on the attack. The usual unneccessary personal stuff. Several posters have said I was correct. You accuse them of "not reading the thread" because they failed to agree with you. They read it alright, and called you out, but you're too egotistical to back away.
Why are you so narcissistic?

Ten pages of rubbish! all about something that is still speculation!

Are you really that slow?
1. You claimed that I was unable to comment on the location of the potential new ground because I live far away, but you were, even though your assessment was wrong and mine was correct.
2. You weren't sure of the development of plough lane, but I was....even from 12k miles away

Its not speculation...........it is a done deal.

my god what a pathetic thread. No wonder quite a few don't come on here.

When are the children going !!! Can't stand this forum.

Many, many years ago, Liverpool City RLFC played at the magnificent Knotty Ash Stadium. They developed it, within their meagre means, mainly by fencing it and erecting a nice little grandstand which had become surplus to requirements at either Saints or Widnes. The fact that the land was owned by a nearby Carmelite convent was apparently of little issue, though no doubt permission had to be obtained.

The convent did however reclaim the land, I guess when the lease expired, maybe 30 or so years later, prompting the disastrous move to Huyton.

I guess this stuff can cut both ways.
I know that Nottingham City Council own the freehold to both football grounds (Meadow Lane and the City Ground), which is why when some dodgy con artists bought Notts County thinking they'd get their hands on the freehold they came unstuck (though not before fleecing about £200k out of the club).
Trouble is, it only takes one money grabbing council to put the freeholds up for sale, and it could all go to pot.

There's quite a lot of circumstantial evidence pointing in that direction.

Quote: BroncOnIon "Many, many years ago, Liverpool City RLFC played at the magnificent Knotty Ash Stadium. They developed it, within their meagre means, mainly by fencing it and erecting a nice little grandstand which had become surplus to requirements at either Saints or Widnes. The fact that the land was owned by a nearby Carmelite convent was apparently of little issue, though no doubt permission had to be obtained. The convent did however reclaim the land, I guess when the lease expired, maybe 30 or so years later, prompting the disastrous move to Huyton.'" Nuns! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD-fPb87mVA

Quote: BroncOnIon "Many, many years ago, Liverpool City RLFC played at the magnificent Knotty Ash Stadium. They developed it, within their meagre means, mainly by fencing it and erecting a nice little grandstand which had become surplus to requirements at either Saints or Widnes. The fact that the land was owned by a nearby Carmelite convent was apparently of little issue, though no doubt permission had to be obtained. The convent did however reclaim the land, I guess when the lease expired, maybe 30 or so years later, prompting the disastrous move to Huyton.'" Nuns! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD-fPb87mVA