£200K is the figure I have heard before, which seems decent value.

So your opinion is that this season, you know, the season we have rebranded to become the LONDON BRONCOS, will be the season, that Harlequins are going to decide we are damaging their brand, and this didn't occur to them in any of the 6 seasons we were called HARLEQUINS?

Truly you win every award going for opinions that are one chip short of a happy meal.

Agreed given we left GP reportedly paying £150k

The True Jokers are those who can see no wrong in the Quins brand and the damage it is doing to us as a Super League Club! do you not think it would have seemed strange foe our landlords to kick us out when we carried the same name.

If I want to play your silly games of name calling which I don't like to do as it is more like girls in the school yard, then consider you come over as nothing less than a fruit cake with such a stupid comment!

So many seem to think that it is "Pie in the Sky" we will ever move, well I just can't see us staying at The Stoop forever if we remain in Super League, that is my opinion and I stick by it.

I never said it is "pie in the sky" that we will ever move, I said we won't be getting our own stadium.

Jaybs- you seem confident we will be getting our own stadium, please enlighten us at to where the money will be coming from. Have you won the Euro lottery or something?

If I win the Euro, we will have Our Own Stadium! be it East, North or West! or South, whichever area we can really be part of the community and build upwards! - if we have to ground share again, please Not a union club and I am not anti union at all, I was a full member at Orrell RUFC in their glory days with my mate Peter Williams and John Carleton, but it was so different at Orrell I tell you.

As ever you cannot actually answer the question instead always going off on one tangent or another.

There was no name calling in my post, so no requirement for a response.

Answer the question please, why are the London Broncos being damaged by the Quins brand [your new point above] and how does that relate to your original opinion that we are damaging the Quins brand more this season than in any other?

And you wonder why people have difficulty following your posts. If you can't answer fine, leave it.

So is it £200,000 or Gutterfax's nearly £400,000?

I was obviously way off the mark...I would take ther 200k figure or 15k a game...

Harlequins brand damaging the ESL club how exactly?

Fan numbers were about the same over 4 years as Quins RL as they were as the Broncos at Griffin Park........the team became absolute , that's when the attendances tapered off.......
Rupe1 and the other "chiponshoulders" claimed we'd see the massed hoardes of RL fans return in their gazzillions once we were free of the Union name......let me know how that's panning out?

The only thing damaging the ESL club in London is the continued neglect when it comes to promotion. Change the name to the south London Stags, or Noth London Norsemen....East London Eels even.......build a purpose built 20,000 seater arena and fill the squad with entire Kanagroos squad....it wil make no difference unless they F()(king tell anyone.

The first 4 years as Quins saw 199,000 fans watch 53 games of Superleague......the previous 4 years at Griffin Park saw 194,000 watch 54 games of ESL with some taken OTR. The previous 4 years saw about 160,000 watch 56 "Home" games..........prior to that........well, prior to that, there was even less marketing....the novelty value was enough back then.....and since 2010, the team have been utter crap, still are!

There is no evidence that anywhere would be a good place in London for the ESL team to be situated, but before another expensive and unrequired move is considered, they should at first have a crack at MARKETING IT in an area where they have been trying to build some form of community network.. (no matter how badly they have gone about it)

OK... I'll make this ton. Is ESL European Super League?

It is.....although some think is stands for EASTLONDON Superleague

ESL doesn't exist, it's a dumb thing dumb Aussies say. Along with Marones, Wigan is playing well, five eighth, mongrel and look at my ridiculous home made sign I made that says 'Sweet and Soward' or 'Please take my Cherry-Evans, Daly'.

Day-boo

1. Damage to the LONDON BRONCOS brand, Most people who have watched Super League on TV and may want to experience Live do not in the norm identify with union, they see the image of the Twickenham and the Rolls Royce cars with picnic baskets and champagne, it is the same as with Cameron and Eton! - when we decided to re-brand I always felt that would have been the time to completely split and move from the stoop. I accept though that we just had to re-brand and finding a suitable ground is not going to be easy and with the new licence period it had to done now, sadly with the on the field results after such good recruitment we have not produced the goods and the impact of the re brand has been lost.

2. No One really knows fully the discussions taking place about a renewal of the agreement with our landlords or the search for a new ground! correct? If our landlord was so enthusiastic to retain us as "easy money" and a nice profit making exercise they would be doing everything to retain us, I have never seen this time around since we have been at the stoop any enthusiasm towards us from the landlords, yes when we re-branded as Quins they did make a small effort to let their supporters know about us but that is all. Now we are The London Broncos once more and currently the way we are perceived (the landlords only need to have a glance at this forum) we will be seen as sinking fast, so they may even feel now is it worth it being associated with us?

Only time will tell gutterfax but I never feel that we will be able to build upwards via the local Twickenham community if we stay, if we do not start to turn things around and Super League is reduced to 12 teams next time around what is out future, the bargain some people think it is to play at the stoop will not be affordable in the championship unless David Hughes decides to work until he is 70! What income do we have currently, not much from season ticket sales, none hardly from sponsorship (while the Skolars seem to do so well) merchandise limited and I am uncertain what profits we are able to get on a match day from bars and entertaining do we keep all the income from this sector?

Just wish I had the funds of DH, as I have no family commitments at all, over the good years for myself I put in as much as possible with sponsorship of players shirts and match balls etc, but I have no doubt if my circumstances do change I will put my money were my mouth is! no way should London fail.