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| The morning after the night before and time to reflect. Was my general downer based on the appalling journey up (5 hours for a 3 hour trip), the fact we got there JUST in time and then we, like hundreds of other, had to queue up to buy a ticket to get on and missed our best 10 minutes ......... or was the performance that bad !
No, in reflection the performance was bad, no woeful. Preparation, application, skill, game plan, motivation all ABJECT, although I dont think I can totally criticise effort.
At the end of the day, offensively, the half backs are looking incompetent as they dont have players giving them options, and frankly I remain totally unconvinced by both Witt (especially) and Gower (honeymoon period). The hookers are just basically has beens who offer nothing - wayward and inaccurate passes from dummy half, scoots thats my granny could make a better fist of and general weakness in defence - why did we get rid of Ellis and bring back that clown Rinaldi ? Robertson and Colborn look like they have had the motivational stuffing knocked out of them. O'Callaghan is never a centre, in fact if he was at any other SL club would he get a run and the other centre is so defensively inept its embarrassing. The starting props at least gave it a go, but even they seemed to loose interest when they looked at the jokers around them. As for the back three, well least said the better really - its saying something that one week the lock is Clubb, the next its Melling. Caro and Krasniqi, nothing to say other than young lads trying hard. Has Cook been living up to his name as he looks like he is carrying 3 stone round his gut. And for once I cant criticise Dorn.
So the hard facts are Hughes went out and splashed the cash and somehow, Powell has managed to coach out of the best players motivation and skill. His post match waffle does nothing to make me feel he is fit for the role as London Broncos Head Coach - he is not. But I dont know what the options/altrnatives are, but I do know if this continues we are going out of business.
On the bright side, Salford were excellent, well drilled and really entertaining and I wish them well. Their stadium is everything we should aspire too (apart form the pre match ticketing arrangements) and their fans passionate and vocal.
There were times on the journey up, sitting stationary in miles of traffic, when we could easily have turned around and given up on the team, but we made the effort and kept the faith and got there. If only some of the players could take a leaf out of their loyal fans books.
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| I could not face posting last night when I arrived home! it was bad enough seeing twitter & facebook on the iPhone, what a total disaster, just clueless, it is the first time since I started watching the game of rugby league as a 7 year old that I was so tempted to leave early, yes using the old excuse beat the traffic.
Salford had some good play from individuals & I respect them enjoying their moment of glory but tale of how they will smash Catalan next week away is a little getting carried away beating a bad team.
Only little comfort was we were able to score, which I worried would be impossible to do at half time.
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| Quote: PC Plum "
At the end of the day, offensively, the half backs are looking incompetent as they dont have players giving them options, and frankly I remain totally unconvinced by both Witt (especially) and Gower (honeymoon period). '"
Powell may not be up to it, but Gower in particular should be stepping up and making things happen. An Aussie international, a match for any halfback in his pomp, he should still be capable of creating gaps and opportunities. Too old? Past it? Compare with Lee Briers at Wire who never had Gower's credentials but seems to improve with age and experience. Witt also looked lively at Crusaders, so has to share the blame. No ha;fback creativity = entire games spent in defence = many defeats to come.
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| Quote: PC Plum ".................... - why did we get rid of Ellis and bring back that clown Rinaldi ? ......................'"
Firstly, to you and all other Broncos fans fair play for making the trip last night.
According to "Coach" Powell, Ellis wanted to return north. And like you and a few others dare I say, I thought we'd shot ourselves in the foot when he signed for Wakey Wakey. Always thought he got us on the front foot when on the field and always got us going forward. I see the U20's went down to a not to disimilar score to Salford.
I see from 22:24 last night, the Broncos website, were spinning that "Coach" Powell was a "disapointed man" and has called on the squad to "stop the rot and fast".
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| Players around Gower just aren't good enough, we don't have an effective game plan and the players aren't playing as 1 unit. He isn't a miracle worker. On the 3 occasions I have seen him this season, it is clear he is the best player we have, a class act, just with no support. Hopefully someone can keep him interested, a partnership with a new, capable coach perhaps.
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| If Powell is still in charge at the next home game I think we should organise a protest!
Any ideas?
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| Must say, woke up this morning hoping to see a vacancy at The Stoop.
Still fuming.
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| I have just looked back at the results and I make it:
Last 27 SL games; won 2, drawn 1, lost 24 Didn't realise it was that bad!
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| Seem to remember reading that Powell was appointed against the advice of the RFL. As far as a replacement's concerned, the rumour is that Brian Noble's not interested in a job involving a house move and I can't see John Kear swapping a nice, relatively low profile job at Batley with trying to sort out the mess that's us at the moment.
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| Just a thought but anyone thought that maybe the big senior players and the respective personalities are now a big part of the problem.
They wouldn't be the first players at the end of there career to get the coach the sack, and one step into the breach, How many times in sport have coaches/managers bought players to a club and ended up in affect adding to the problems and appointing there own successor.
RP was in a very awkward situation in this close season, in having to bring in players with a lot of experience and mould a new team. In effect he was also bringing people he really knew nothing about, and most importantly he was just hoping these players would get on, gel and really work along his ideas and game plan.
The new players have clearly not progressed the coach or clubs position, merely exposed him for what he was a rookie coach trying to make his way in the game in arguably the worst position in superleague.
I do feel sad for the bloke, ive said it before appears to be a decent bloke who got the job too early, at a really difficult time in the clubs history, a good coach on paper, but as shown, lacks Superleague experience and his own experienced coaching team. My guess the new players have now sussed this, the respect for the coach is not there.
Time to move on and a lot to learn for the club both on and off the field, A great deal of thought is needed, its massive appointment, it needs to be credible and workable this time.
John Kear seemed very happy two weeks ago at Batley, welcomed every Skolars player into the clubhouse before the game, after the game drove down to Sky Super league review on Sunday night at Isleworth, maybe thats the link.
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| Agree with DL about Gower, so many doubted he would be able to rise to the challenge but I feel he has and is leading by example but he can't do it all on his own!
Over bringing in a new coach or Director of Rugby to work with Rob, Doubt Noble would relocate to London, not sure if three days a week would work? Kear has got it easy but he may go for the challenge! he is never one to hide away for too long & have an easy life. Whatever option it needs to be done sooner than later!!!
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| Quote: wisezola "Just a thought but anyone thought that maybe the big senior players and the respective personalities are now a big part of the problem.'"
Very nearly spot on. One big senior player is part of the problem not players. Rob has been handed a poisoned chalice.
We can't have two people running the team so either Rob or the player needs to go. (Frankly if Rob goes and the player doesn't step up to coach then he still needs to go to avoid a repeat of the problem with a new coach.)
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| Chad Randall needs to go so we can get a decent hooker.
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| There was no point investing in some of the talent that arrived at the stoop this year while leaving RP in charge, the guy is in way over his head. Watching some of the basic tactics and game plans he has installed over the past 14 months have left the guys I go to games with bewildered (between us there is many years of playing knowledge, most of them played at far higher level then I ever did).
As for RP and senior players having no respect for him, maybe this is deserved? This is where placing a very inexperienced coach with no real apprenticeship or decent mentor in his career to try and coach a squad that contains players who have been lead by some of the games finest minds comes undone.
I'm sorry RP should have only been a temporary solution while the club tread water last season and fallen back into an assistant role this year.
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| In the real world of business how many people can work week on week for a manager who knows far less than his/her staff? I would think it would be very little and it can be very difficult and detrimental to the work force knowing what he/she is trying to put in place will not work. This could set back a team by months. It's probably easier to ignore the problem and blame other issues when your staff are on contract and cannot walk away than it is in a business world where staff can walk away to another position in another company. It is not only no good for the fans when they are utterly dejected by what is happening but a number of players could be having their career ruined when zest and talent are coached out of them. People say RP is a nice bloke, no-one is disputing he very well could be but he is not a coach and should not be in the position he is in.
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