We need someone with a good kicking game. Every succesfull team has one and Ive been banging on about this for months. Orr's is woefull. A good kicker can win you games and tonight Gale was the choice kicker and showed us what he can do. A huge influence. Hope he keeps it up

Harlequins coach Brian McDermott: "The boys stuck to it well. It was going to be difficult on a Friday night on telly with a big crowd and a lot of emotion.

"But I thought the boys had a real professional, clinical performance. We got a bit loose but we're not after 10 out of 10 at this stage of the year.

"It wasn't faultless and you have to bear in mind that Hull KR had a few blokes out. They had the whole of their back three out so put it in perspective, we played a depleted team.

"But I don't want to drag too much credit away from our team that's also depleted with a few of our forwards out and Luke Dorn has broke his leg."

Could be out for while then.

No good that. Could be finished for the season.

Hum I don't think Mc plays it like that, i wan't there firmly ensconsed in Kingston working but if he was a good as you say then I think he will be in (he was my tip this year). Not to say Dorn is crap, also think he could do a job a .

You've got to be on the wind up there. His defence is questionable at the best of times, hence him defending so wide so often.

Always seen Dorn as pretty week in the defensive line, technique is poor for such a pro and always goes high, so tends to be 50/50 upper body strength not that good compaired to some

heh no seriously, I think without the responsablity of trying to 'play' he would be a decent , would be able to go wide pass the ball out break between the last two three defenders .... IMO tbh i don't think he is that bad at SO and hated Hill

I think if you looked into the stats you would find that statement is b0llocks - take Celtic last week I think we got 2 tries from Orr kicks.

Was impressed with Luke Gale last night

Gale brilliant, but Orr and Dorn also good, stop knocking our own players......

Dorn????????

Gale had a good game, but he had Danny Orr along side him for the whole game. When he's been asked to play in the halves at points this season without Orr he's struggled. People need to realise that Orr is our key halfback, without him the side lacks direction.

I agree in part but the game where Purdo went to 6/7 we had direction.

Purdham is our Rooney, yup he is a fantastic SO and brilliant at (some of his play in that position towards the end of last year was amazing) but ultimately he is a second rower, who would argue he is not the best LF in the competition?

Dont disagree that Gale needs another half back with him and Orr fits the bill on this performance, but a good kicking game is critical to creating scoring chances and getting good field position and with Gale in there and GETTING the ball to kick was a big factor in a very clinical and structured winning performance. I still say Orr's kicking game is way below what we need despite the odd occasion when he kicks a good ball. He cant get real distance on his kicks and rarely splits the backs - its usually straight to them. Few half backs are 'good' defenders which is unsurprising the way forwards target them. Im Ok with Dorns contribution but this is a big chance for Gale to show an alternative way of playing in the halfs. If he makes a good fist of it he will take some dislodging

personally, the only problem i have with Dorn is that he never seems to want to get tackled, he throws the ball away sometimes looking like he just doesn't want to get hit. Thats my only problem with him. Hopefully Gale will step up now though.

Dorn is eighth in the league in assists this season.
Orr is top.

pretty good combo if you ask me - let gale develop at his own pace rather than doing the English thing of saying every promising youngster is going to be the best player ever.

He doesn't need to be the best player ever. He just needs to be better than Dorn. And already he is miles ahead.

Feel free to rely on the statistics to guide you - those that watch the performances of players and those who have a clue about rugby league are miles ahead of you. Enjoy your Luke Dorn fan club.

HTH.

Gale was almost completely ineffective against KR in the home game without Orr on the pitch, and good against KR away with Orr on the pitch.

I don't know how that makes him better than Dorn.

What do you expect? Gale to carry the team with no half back partner? Of course he's going to play better with Orr on the pitch, they link together, and Orr is a specialised scrum half.

My point was that Gale has shown no evidence of being better than Dorn, so I was interested in what made you so certain.

What I want, among other things, is for our half backs to be able to win games, regardless of who they are partnered with. I also want Gale to do well, he should be the long term replacement and current cover for Danny Orr. I think he has the talent to do so.

this kid looked excellent aganst HKR just proves that there is a lot of talent in the national leagues just waiting for a break...........

I suspect the talent is certainly there and Leeds have just signed someone up themselves which confirms it. SL clubs just lack the nerve to take a gamble nowadays. If BM releases a few this season and brings some unknown in from the NL I will wait to see them perform before I call it a backward step. Gale has certainly expanded our strength in depth if nothing else