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Quote: The Penguin " Sharing a ground and a shirt with them did us no harm at all'"


Maybe.

But Quins RU benefited greatly from Quins RL.

They used to be poxy on the field with crap crowds off it.

You can't tell me the quarter mill David Hughes ponied up every year didn't help realise their objectives.

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Quote: Cowgirl Nostalgist "Maybe.

But Quins RU benefited greatly from Quins RL.'"


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Quote: jbuzza "

250 grand a year might be chump change in football but it's a lot of money in rugby terms.

Some posts & a couple of stewards who didn't do their job is all Quins RU provided in return.

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The initial deal was way below market rate and gave us a cut of bar takings etc, almost unheard of in ground rental deals. The second deal was purely commercial and to be honest why should they do any more. By then Quins RU were landlords and no more.

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Quote: Halfdan of t'wide embrace "The second deal was purely commercial and to be honest why should they do any more. By then Quins RU were landlords and no more.'"


Which is why I don't get the continued love for The Stoop from some.

Gus may have made a total mess of cutting the ties but they needed to be cut all the same.

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Quote: Rob from Erith "BTW, you got a touch of insomnia going on? Or just up early to make a start on the Christmas shopping?'"

Up to check on the completion of the sale of a London flat. Brentford is now officially a hole icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Cowgirl Nostalgist "Which is why I don't get the continued love for The Stoop from some.

Gus may have made a total mess of cutting the ties but they needed to be cut all the same.'"


FACT:
£222k was the official figure given for match-day costs in 2012....that's about 10% of the losses we made that year.

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Reading between the lines David Hughes has decided he didn't want to pay the sort of rent Quins wanted so yes we had to go.

Why the love? Well I personally think it was an excellent ground to watch rugby at. Sadly as our crowds declined it became to big for us.

On a personal level it will take me at least twice as long to get to Barnet, and that's on a good day. I suspect any midweek matches are now basically impossible unless I take half a day off. However if the move generates 4000 new fans that fact it inconveniences me is frankly irrelevant.

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We're here again ain't we guys, we coulda been a successs as Fulham, we coulda been a success at the valley, we coulda been a success at Coptal, we coulda been a success at the Stoop.

We're London, we don't need no effin' success, being here is good enough and for that I do thank Hughes, just wish he'd kick some of his employees out to pasture!

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Quote: Cowgirl Nostalgist "Maybe.

But Quins RU benefited greatly from Quins RL.

They used to be poxy on the field with crap crowds off it.'"


That's utter cobblers. Even when they were playing in the National League in the 2005-6 season, they were getting crowds of 8,000 plus, and ever since then they regularly have got crowds of more than 10,000. How would being landlord to a struggling rugby league club have made any difference to them whatsoever? The £200k rent is a nice addition but given their salary cap of £4.8m and the Heineken Cup TV money, it seems a drop in the ocean in revenue terms.

The notion they somehow took advantage of us is laughable.

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Quote: The Penguin "That's utter cobblers. Even when they were playing in the National League in the 2005-6 season, they were getting crowds of 8,000 plus, and ever since then they regularly have got crowds of more than 10,000. How would being landlord to a struggling rugby league club have made any difference to them whatsoever? The £200k rent is a nice addition but given their salary cap of £4.8m and the Heineken Cup TV money, it seems a drop in the ocean in revenue terms.

The notion they somehow took advantage of us is laughable.'"

Quins RU are struggling financially trust me.

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First time around The Stoop was a good place, but I put that down to the success with corporate! but no tears at leaving.

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Quote: Paddock Punter "Quins RU are struggling financially trust me.'"


ok. So how did they benefit from us being there? I think the point still stands.

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Quote: The Penguin "ok. So how did they benefit from us being there? I think the point still stands.'"

We paid them money to use the ground - simples!

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Their management team had the common sense to use our e-mail and mailing lists, extensively. However, I would have to admit our management not using theirs is actually down to the stupidity of our own management rather than Quinns being underhand in any way.

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