My philosophy exactly! It a bit like footballers in bygone days running a few laps of the pitch at morning training - just work off your hangover, you don't have to sleep it off! If I fancy a few beers I don't care what day tomorrow is - just set the alarm clock and get on with it. A big mug of strong black coffee with my breakfast before leaving home, a pint or two of water after I arrive at work and I'm ready to go.

Feeling hungover really is the lamest excuse of the lot for complaining about Sunday fixtures. If it's that much of an issue just drink less.

Sorry, pressed the wrong button.

They haven't always had big crowds but consistently stuck to Saturdays as traditionally Sat afternoon is when sport is played/watched, including Rugby and Football.

Fairly certain that you'll find that pro RL was for 100 years a Sunday 3pm sport until Sky's money came along.

Quins RU put together a brilliant strategy based around having circa 700 rugby union teams within a fairly small radius of their ground playing Saturday mornings, as well as 100+ years of heritage of playing out of the same ground, in the same colours, under the same name. Go figure.

Also, imo, soccer fans have far more in common with RL fans than with RU fans. So whatever you say, Quins RU are not fishing in the soccer pond. We should fish in every pond avaialable to us and I would welcome soccer fans with open arms, particularly those looking for a summer sport outlet (and those that are family oriented)

No, only for about 40-50 years. Professional sports on Sundays were not legal until sometime in the 1960-s. When RL first switched to Sundays, to avoid clashes with soccer, it was initially illegal to charge for admission. The get-around was to allow entry only to those who bought a programme first.

And there were floodlit mid-week evening games.

Spot on. This is how the 'of Erith' clan got into RL .Now its at the point where RL takes precedence to football. Must be lots of other football fans looking for an exciting, cheap and family friendly sport in the capital during the summer. Who knows, some of them might even be fully converted in the way us lot were. Football season's nearly over so surely its time to start some new promotions to get folks in? We've waited 3 seasons now and apart from a very few the RU fans seem to be either indifferent or hostile to the presence of RL at the Stoop.

cheers for the accuracy BO, but I'd still say that 50 years of practically every team playing on a Sunday up until 1995 (and most teams preference for it now) makes that tradition.

Somehow offering the QPR, Fulham, Chelsea, Reading etc fanbases an offer on the rest of the season once football ends would be a good place to start - the soccer clubs would be seen to be getting their season ticket holders a deal/favour....the only problem I foresee is the soccer clubs fearing losing their fans to us? But if Quins can come up with a good enough reason and a contra deal.....

Which school did you go to where 1967 to 1995 is a gap of 50 years?

Michael.

Tiresomely pedantic mate - BO wrote this {BroncOnIon wrote: No, only for about 40-50 years} so I am taking his words at face value. What does it matter - whether it's 30 odd from 1967 to SL or 40 odd to today (when Sunday is still more prevalent) it's a long time and most people supporting the game now (other than Quins/Broncos/Fulham fans) grew up watching on Sundays. So that is our tradition. Not Saturday as WQ suggests.

Even Religion got it's house in order

Muslims on Friday
Jews on Saturday
Christians on Sunday

Seeing as Sky own (almost all) British Sport surely it's them we should be badgering
7 fixtures a week
1 Friday night ( a random team not just St Helens)
6 Sunday games

And make football with their 10 fixtures
9 on Saturday afternoon
1 on Monday night

Union
Who cares make it
Saturday night (it belongs to the beeb anyway)

Great point made by Stevo tonight after the game in saying how important the kids playing RL in the London area are because its their parents that will come and wathc the game

He clearly forgot that the kids play on the same day as Quins so can't

There are still clashes though - I used to work for an Israeli bank and all the Jews used to bugger off early on a Friday to be home before dusk, leaving mugs like me to hold the fort!

He didn't forget anything. What he knew, as does anyone connected with the "local" game, is that kids play at 10, 11 and 12(under 12's, 14 and 16's) thus offering them and there fathers the opportunity to go to the Stoop for 3.

Its the open age games that clash

Unless the fathers play the open age game as well

The fact that a clash exists at all is still a bit stupid when you are in dire need of increasing attendances in a city with a small target fanbase. Keep exluding sections of it bit by bit all seems a bit mad to me

Just my view though

Maybe that isnt the only target. Not many fathers play league past 30

in this day and age most fathers will be 18 with a 5 year old son

wire quin some of the u12 have been played in the afternoon making it difficult to travel to the stoop for a 3.00 ko. There is a clash at Junior level, I know since I have a lad playing.

Listening to Clarky on the TV he said Brian Mac had watched his son play earlier in the day and im sure I saw him at the game last night.

As last night was 6 pm KO and the RLC hasn't started yet, what is the reason for the small crowd. Surely some of the players would have attended last night to see a top 3 team, boosting the gate. Are we to expect a drop in crowds in 2 weeks?

Seriously dude - why are you constantly banging this drum of stupidity?
The club needs to work with the community to bring people back after years of disenfranchisement/chasing around town/not being looked after.

It's called a 'community marketing development program' - they're not coming at the moment! It's a program that develops consumers of the future. It's a long term project that hasn't yet been done properly and you, like the club in the past, are being knee-jerk!

The irony.

Sunday morning off your crochet course Einstein?

They were all watching live premier league football!

Out of curiosity what is the timescale for this programme and when is the start date?

We've been in West London for 5 years now.