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Which makes you wonder why he started foaming at the mouth when I asked if this was the case.
He's even made my question part of his sig, though I have not the slightest idea why.

I can think of a more *ahem* concise way of describing his character.

It's nice to see that yet another thread has become more about me than the subject under discussion, purely because some posters prefer to have a dig at my "negativity" rather than accept the facts as they are laid out.
This "pack attack" mentality is what drives posters from these forums, not my opinion.....this thread was doing fine until page 5, when it was pointed out that my geographical position apparently bars me from having an opinion about an area in which I still own a property.



Some people need to read the threads before accusing me of personal attacks and thread drifts.....most of the time it isn't me! We even had a moderator chip in without reading the thread through first.....shameful behaviour!

Back on thread.
Still no planning information available regarding the ground. It's hard to tell how many houses at Vallis way would be directly affected if they were to build a second stand across from the grand stand. As for us investing in the ground, it is owned by a charity set up by trailfinders, so any investment would probably be in return for assured tenure not part ownership.

You really believe that, because you said it.



3. Believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

4. Requires excessive admiration.

5. Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favourable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations.

6. Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends.

7. Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.



Only No.s 1 + 2 missing this time.

No, it's because you always personally attack other posters that dare to disagree with you.
You're good at dishing it out, but you can't take it in return. So stop dishing it out, and the thread won't drift. It's not that complex.

Jim, I think you will find it was page 3 when you had a dig at someones post about expansion rumours at ealing that started the sniping. But you will conveniently miss that.
I will repeat my thoughts though, if we are going there with the chance of buying in and development of the ground then us that not exactly what the club needs and what we all want.
If we are going there because it's 250 a game then we really are in a dire place, and further back than the starting blocks 30 odd years ago.
But nothing has been announced yet so still all hearsay.

By the way silly little emoticons seem very childish

Which is pretty much what I said at the top of page 5 (before all the personal stuff started), and you're still spot on. If we're investing in the facility and securing a long term home, it's the best news.
If we're not, it's the worst.
Trouble is, I have a horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach....

The Trailfinders ground is owned by The Mike Gooley Trailfinders Charity. As such I doubt that The Broncos are buying in. I assume they are just renting the pitch.
So it is hardly a giant leap forward for the club.

Perry actually I agree with you, I have a feeling it's a continued nomad existence.
Just hope we stay full time and at least try to get some stability in the squad,

Because my dear chap, you were all over me like the proverbial rash when claiming that Trailfinders was not in a nice area, but in fact in next to a nasty estate and announcing that my "error" was down to me "not being there" so to speak.
As I have since pointed out, I was well aware that the estate was across the railway tracks from the ground, making it an irrelevance when considering the house prices on Vallis Way are 740k according to Zoopla...here's a 2 bed maisonette that went for 425k 2 months ago...a 350 meter walk to the ground!
rlhttp://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detailMatching.html?prop
So, the reason your question regarding Plough Lane tickled me so, was the irony that I knew there were houses on Plough Lane.........even from 12,000 miles away HTH...

So you had time to look it up, well done. I could have done the same, I suppose I could've done what you do sometimes, state it as fact without checking. But I thought i'd ask it as a question because , well you know, it's a forum and I was sure other people would be able to confirm if I was correct. And they did. You're the only one who went on the attack.

I mentioned your remoteness when you tried to claim knowledge of what happened on match day. Why don't you google "Did Joey Grima encourage players to talk to the fans after the game?" and see how many results you get.
Not everything can be looked up on a search engine.

This is where we get into the nitty gritty of exactly what the charitable trust own.
Quite often with sports clubs, the freehold for the land is owned by a trust or other external body, but the actual stands, clubhouse, etc. are owned by the club. That enables the club to develop the ground as they need, but prevents some shyster buying the club to just to get their hands on the freehold.

If (and I realise it's a bif 'if') that is the model at Trailfinders, is it just possible that we might be offering to help fund expansion of the ground? And in the process secure ourselves a home?

Forlorn hope I know...

I'd beg to differ.


And for the record, you'd specifically have to go out of your way to cross the estate to get to the ground. It's over the railway lines and masked by a long line of very high trees......and as I have already shown, is being regenerated.
Interesting that you question my accuracy and ability to identify facts and figures from across the world but you yourself are still unsure of developments just down the road?

can I suggest a visit to Quite often with sports clubs, the freehold for the land is owned by a trust or other external body, but the actual stands, clubhouse, etc. are owned by the club. That enables the club to develop the ground as they need, but prevents some shyster buying the club to just to get their hands on the freehold.

If (and I realise it's a bif 'if') that is the model at Trailfinders, is it just possible that we might be offering to help fund expansion of the ground? And in the process secure ourselves a home?

Forlorn hope I know...'"

I said I thought Plough Lane had houses on it, and you went on the attack. The usual unneccessary personal stuff. Several posters have said I was correct. You accuse them of "not reading the thread" because they failed to agree with you. They read it alright, and called you out, but you're too egotistical to back away.
Why are you so narcissistic?