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Like I say, nothing will please some folk

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: northernbloke "Like I say, nothing will please some folk'"

Sorry buddy, but you know as much about marketing as I do about refereeing a game of RL......mentions in dispatches is not marketing and the proof is in the fact that we have fewer fans attending and fewer Season ticket sales than we did when we were in Superleague at the stoop......same comp, same name, fewer fans.....why is that Einstein?
You'd tell me something was white if I said it was black....you're a poor troll who argues with everyone, regardless of their stance. London don't market themselves and are therefore 100% reliant on the ego that owns the club....this is a documented fact.....what was the announced attendance today?

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Remember you prediction for today dog?
The words you are searching for are- “well I was wrong” but even when you are you can’t say it.
Why do we have less fans now than the stoop! Simple we have been playing in the second tier, even you with your marketing skills ain’t getting em back overnight!

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: northernbloke "Remember you prediction for today dog?
The words you are searching for are- “well I was wrong” but even when you are you can’t say it.
Why do we have less fans now than the stoop! Simple we have been playing in the second tier, even you with your marketing skills ain’t getting em back overnight!'"

1. I said we'd lose. I was wrong, as were a great many people including the majority of our sane fans, but regardless, I was wrong and freely admit it.
2. David Hughes took 100% ownership of the club at the start of the 2008 season. We had at that time, an average attendance figure of 3,428. 44,569 fans paid to watch us in 2007......in our last year of his expert guidance with a re-invented name and playing out of a soccer stadium in the middle of nowhere the figures you're looking at are 1,294 and 16,828.....so almost 66% down in 7 short years.......but hey ho....what do I know......well, I do know that your idol has pumped millions into what is essentially a mid tier RL outfit that can't possibly hope to survive once he dies or stops funding us.......it'll be tempting, but when it happens, I won't say I told you so because I think I may have already mentioned it once or twice.

What was the announced attendance?

By all accounts wakey took 1k down, so was it better than the average 2,675 they were in the book for over 18 prior SL visits, or was it somewhat less? 3,688 when we were Harlequins Rugby Lessons was the highest gate for a Wakey Visit......did we get close....was it the Times that done it? d040.gif

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At least they are trying, little steps!
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Quote: LU2 "At least they are trying, little steps!

This seems like a good initiative to attract locals.

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It's an interesting one, and something they did last year too which was understandable in the Championship. I'm curious about it this time around, for a couple of reasons.

Firstly, Bronze Season Tickets are as cheap as chips already (£130 or £99 for early bird renewals) so I'm not really sure dropping them to £75 is much of an incentive - is that extra few quid really going to bring newcomers in? Secondly, if you are going to drop it then you should probably do so to match the early bird rate, undercutting that seems perverse. And what about people living in those postcodes who've already bought season tickets, are they now in line for a refund?

I'm not opposed to this offer, far from it. I can see the logic in reaching out locally, especially after such an exciting and unexpected win on the weekend which may have raised our profile a smidgen, but I'm not entirely sure I see the justification for it.

I'd be interested at the end of the season to hear if there's much take up, and then again if those people go on to renew at a normal price the following season.

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Good idea but, are they actually letting people know it is on offer. Im not talking about tweeting something, I mean telling people that do not follow the club already, that do not look on social media???

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To my mind the club should offer locals free tickets emailing the tickets to them. From these email addresses they should follow up with cheap deals to encourage them to continue to attend further matches.

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I may be wrong but dont you have to have email addrresses to email people or is there an email for local people, or a local news page on facebook. A leaflet drop before the next home game would be a good idea and the cost of having them delivered is not expensive

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Quote: itsmeagain "I may be wrong but dont you have to have email addrresses to email people or is there an email for local people, or a local news page on facebook. A leaflet drop before the next home game would be a good idea and the cost of having them delivered is not expensive'"



Get some of the Academy lads to do the leaflet drop. Will cost nothing( bar the printing costs).

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What you do is get the potential attendee to give you an email address. (That is what the Ealing Broadway Friday late morning stall should be harvesting). Then email them their free ticket. From that if they use it, you will know their email address is viable. You can follow it up and future offers can be sent.

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Leaflet drops are not very effective.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: RfE "Get some of the Academy lads to do the leaflet drop. Will cost nothing( bar the printing costs).'"

Bartercard Pounds cost us nowt........use a bartecard printer, get fans/academy to deliver...cost Leaflet drops are not very effective.'"

Really?

When last back in the UK I popped into a refurbed bub in Hanwell for a pint and they were running a promotion called "street of the week". Basically, they leaflet dropped an entire road and offered 20% off the bill for a group of 4 who could provide proof of address (ie, one of the party lived on that street).

I tried this last week with my new business and had 64 tables of 4 or more dine and drink with us.....that's 10 groups a day with an average spend of $50 (£25) a head.....and I paid a young fella $100 to drop them off to a street with 500 houses on......and I have the name and address of 64 people who I will write to next week with a feedback request (which they can email me...more data) and in return they'll get another 20% off their next visit if it happens before the end of march.........

I've marketed, sold to, followed up, captured more data and then marketed again all for a minimal cost.....

...so yeah, Leaflet drops on their own don't work, but as part of a structured campaign, they are gold!

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With bosty on this, as a recipient of leaflet drops. Along with domino pizza, raj curry house and bobs taxi firms any unsolicited mail goes straight in recycling bin.
In reality it’s more of an annoyance to the majority rather than an incentive to take part.
My evidence! Have personally been involved in a targeted leaflet campaign at the stoop to Rugby League fans, response? Zero!

And contrary to your thought that it’s just disagreeing with everything you say dog, this is just my view and my experience of leaflets through my door.

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