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| An elaspsed season ticket holder who did not go to the game as working i just searched London Broncos yesterday on twitter yesterday just to see what it was like on social media.
One person on twitter who was a developer at Google in London said he enjoyed his first game even though he had no idea of the rules.Like others have said surely even an eight page handout with squad profiles and rules would have been ideal for the first game.It could even have included a discount voucher for the next game.At the next game do it again including a discount voucher and continue for the season.
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| 'Not convinced the Broncos made best use of the Fans Zone behind the South Stand.'
I wasn't aware there was one. Don't reckon I'm alone in that.
Again the Broncos could have had someone, mascots maybe, pointing supporters in that direction on arrival.
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| Quote: Smithers99 "Minor point but not all AFC Wimbledon supporters had the £1 offer. For many it was £5. No idea of the split, but if 50/50 on your 500 could add another £1,000.
Beer is the biggest mark-up (profit) item. AFC Wimbledon get a commission on each Broncos purchase which suggest Broncos will get a nice earner. I have absolutely no idea how much although your figure overall seems on the high side unless the per pint profit is really generous.
My question though is this 200K. It is used a lot when discussing the Broncos finance. I know it's the correct figure (i.e. not made up), but I'm not convinced it's being used in the correct context. May I ask you Broncos fans how you were made aware of the figure and whether it was explained to you as a fixed cost or had dependencies linked to it.'"
I'd have to do some digging, but I think its 200K in Champ, and if they get promoted they have to pay more. Also they have to pay for Richmond as well for the reserves, so whichever way you cut it, its significantly more expensive than Ealing was.
I live in a 2 bed house, on my street near me we also have 3 and 4 bed houses. Me and my wife would love to upsize, but if I told her that to move we would have to sell all the furniture, get rid of the technology (netflix, sky, disney+ etc), and all we would be able to afford in the new house was 2 chairs, one bed and one freeview TV, I'm pretty sure we would choose to stay where we are, than move but have no quality of life.
Wimbledon is suitable for Super League, but its too expensive for a struggling part time team. Thats the basic fact, and the only way he is going to get 5K fans is to be in Super League. Thats not going to happen part time, and gates will decline over the season unless they get results on the Pitch.
I said I would take a view in May at the Thunder game, so will observe the next few weeks closely.
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| Quote: orangeman "Fax by 20'"
Fax would need to have a bad game to only win by 20
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| Quote: crashmon "I'd have to do some digging, but I think its 200K in Champ, and if they get promoted they have to pay more. Also they have to pay for Richmond as well for the reserves, so whichever way you cut it, its significantly more expensive than Ealing was.
I live in a 2 bed house, on my street near me we also have 3 and 4 bed houses. Me and my wife would love to upsize, but if I told her that to move we would have to sell all the furniture, get rid of the technology (netflix, sky, disney+ etc), and all we would be able to afford in the new house was 2 chairs, one bed and one freeview TV, I'm pretty sure we would choose to stay where we are, than move but have no quality of life.
Wimbledon is suitable for Super League, but its too expensive for a struggling part time team. Thats the basic fact, and the only way he is going to get 5K fans is to be in Super League. Thats not going to happen part time, and gates will decline over the season unless they get results on the Pitch.
I said I would take a view in May at the Thunder game, so will observe the next few weeks closely.'"
Thank-you for your comments. netflix, sky, disney+ etc ... you only have yourself to blame ... hang on that's a subset of what we subscribe to !
Reading between the lines I don't think it's a straight 200K, that's an estimate that can go not only down, but also up. My suspicion is that the Bronco's are probably paying 30 to 50 percent of the ticket sales (and possibly the lower end) and the 200K relates to a base 2,000 attendance. If correct then pulling in say 1,000 is not quite the financial disaster portrayed. It's still an issue because of the additional costs still incurred, some of which your refer to. But I suspect the rental itself to drop to around 100K on a 1,000 average.
No idea of the cost to play at Ealing, but I assume it was also a "rental", but substantially less. Of course much of that cost may still remain for training, youth matches etc. I guess the biggest cost saving is moving to part time (the knock-on implications of that being a MASSIVE risk). Whilst I suspect AFC Wimbledon are anticipating a 2,000 average attendance, I wonder if the Broncos expect less and a driver behind the part time decision.
I still agree that financially it's a stretch, but I don't think the per match costs are quite as bad as being suggested. Put it this way, if they were then it is a guaranteed loss per match and even from what I've learnt about the Broncos, I don't think they'd get that so badly wrong. Equally AFC Wimbledon aren't going to enter into an agreement that is almost certain to collapse.
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| A nice honest and balanced report of Sunday’s game up on the LB website. I thought it was a good read but, going forward, I’d like the typos/ mistakes at the back end of the piece to be edited out.
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| Quote: orangeman "Fax by 20'"
Is this with Sunday’s starting 13 or a different line up? If the latter I think we could give them a game.
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| One suspects a team of Fax Machines might stand a chance of winning!
Smothers 99 who has never seen live RL has some good ideas, we've had some good ideas but it doesn't look as though the BOSG who appear to have something of the ear of Hughes & his menagerie put any ideas forward given what was missing from Sunday. Coach delusional if he thinks crowds will return to watch much of that sadly.
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| Quote: Deadcowboys1 "One suspects a team of Fax Machines might stand a chance of winning!
Smothers 99 who has never seen live RL has some good ideas, we've had some good ideas but it doesn't look as though the BOSG who appear to have something of the ear of Hughes & his menagerie put any ideas forward given what was missing from Sunday. Coach delusional if he thinks crowds will return to watch much of that sadly.'"
I’m sure as the players get used to each other and the tactics we will improve.
I’m sure we had quite a few missing so we’ll put out stronger teams. However, if our Plan B is to keep raiding Skolars, that would be a really foolish step.
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| Quote: Deadcowboys1 "One suspects a team of Fax Machines might stand a chance of winning!
Smothers 99 who has never seen live RL has some good ideas, we've had some good ideas but it doesn't look as though the BOSG who appear to have something of the ear of Hughes & his menagerie put any ideas forward given what was missing from Sunday. Coach delusional if he thinks crowds will return to watch much of that sadly.'"
Just to be clear DC, have these fax machines got Championship pedigree or are we shipping them from North London? One assumes they wouldn’t come from up North on account of the crippling cost of paper and ink in London!
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| Quote: BigTime "I’m sure as the players get used to each other and the tactics we will improve.
I’m sure we had quite a few missing so we’ll put out stronger teams. However, if our Plan B is to keep raiding Skolars, that would be a really foolish step.'"
I'd prefer it if we let a few of the ex Skolars back to their old club on loan if they don't shape up, and try a few of our more promising academy players in the first team squad.
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| They have been waiting in a container at Tilbury for entry visas direct from Wuhan. Never played league before so should give our boys a good run out. I hear they will copy a St Helens blueprint.
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| Quote: RfE "I'd prefer it if we let a few of the ex Skolars back to their old club on loan if they don't shape up, and try a few of our more promising academy players in the first team squad.'"
Agreed. Or if we are simply in the business of finding players for reserves, rather than ruining Skolars, perhaps we could get in contact with the players we signed for reserves back in the COVID hit year or some of the players we’ve leet go over the last few seasons and see if they are interested Matt Davies, Jonah Verula?
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| Quote: Deadcowboys1 "They have been waiting in a container at Tilbury for entry visas direct from Wuhan. Never played league before so should give our boys a good run out. I hear they will copy a St Helens blueprint.'"
This sounds promising. Please don’t update the squad list on the website we can all play guess the player at the next game.
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| Quote: crashmon "Also they have to pay for Richmond as well for the reserves, so whichever way you cut it, its significantly more expensive than Ealing was.'" And Rosslyn Park for 1st team training facilities.
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