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Quote: Cowgirl Nostalgist "Whereas Saffercens rely on OTR games to look good to sponsors.'"


What an outrageous thing to do. Whatever next?

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Quote: Sarf Essex Taff "What an outrageous thing to do. Whatever next?'"


Depends on their motives.

& seeing as they're run like a ponzi scheme you can be forgiven for questioning those.

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Quote: Cowgirl Nostalgist "Depends on their motives.

& seeing as they're run like a ponzi scheme you can be forgiven for questioning those.'"


A pretty serious allegation you are making there.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Cowgirl Nostalgist "Depends on their motives.

& seeing as they're run like a ponzi scheme you can be forgiven for questioning those.'"


Simply put then, you're happier being a fan of a club with 3k fans in a rented ground that holds close to 5 times that amount, that is 100% reliant on the generosity of 1 bloke to survive, that has no back office staff other than a CEO who has presided over the last 12 months fiasco, and which will in all probability cease to exist as a SL/Professional entity past 2014......
.................rather than being a fan of a club that has a base of 6k to build on, a new ground that will require only 4k more to fill it, that regularly attracts more than a Broncos entire seasons attendance to 1 event game and that's just signed an 8 million pound sponsorship deal?

I get the impression you are just yanking my chain here.....otherwise, it's time to have a word with your carer about upping your meds c020.gif

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With your well documented marketing bee in the bonnet I get why you're impressed with Saracens wheezes but do you really not grasp that they're failing upwards?

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Quote: jbuzza "A pretty serious allegation you are making there.'"

I did qualify that statement. After all maybe there is an innocent explanation as to why a patently loss making business is dressed up to look like a roaring success.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Cowgirl Nostalgist "I did qualify that statement. After all maybe there is an innocent explanation as to why a patently loss making business is dressed up to look like a roaring success.'"

Let's see....why would they want to look good?
Could it be:
To attract Potential Investors?
To attract sponsors?
To give the impression of success to attract the 3,100 or so fans they will need to fill their new stadium?

or could it be that the guy footing the bill at the moment KNOWS that without the investors, sponsors and extra fans, he and his club really will be buggered........

........switch to clip of the HMS London Broncos RL sailing blissfully towards an iceberg with Captain Hughes and his lightweight crew of misguided supporters gllefully waving and waithing for the HMS RFL to come to their rescue......because for the last 17 years they decided against sorting out any lifeboats.

BTW......do you really reckon that a german company have just thrown money at Sarries based on a McFly concert and a double header at Twickenham?

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Cowgirl Nostalgist "With your well documented marketing bee in the bonnet I get why you're impressed with Saracens wheezes but do you really not grasp that they're failing upwards?'"

8,000,000 sponsor and a new stadium = failure d040.gif

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Quote: gutterfax "
BTW......do you really reckon that a german company have just thrown money at Sarries based on a McFly concert and a double header at Twickenham?'"


What other reason is there?

I suppose it's possible Saracens spun them a line about about global brand recognition in South Africa.

Cos circa 5,000 people ensconsed in the nether regions of Barnet certainly don't amount to a hill of beans.

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Quote: gutterfax "8,000,000 sponsor and a new stadium

Obviously in terms of mugging off Allianz it's a success.

In relative terms Saracens are still a failure in my book.

Umpteen games at Wembley and silverware in the trophy cabinet and they've got about 4,000 more fans than a club that is being run into the ground.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Cowgirl Nostalgist "What other reason is there?

I suppose it's possible Saracens spun them a line about about global brand recognition in South Africa.

Cos circa 5,000 people ensconsed in the nether regions of Barnet certainly don't amount to a hill of beans.'"


you're on a wind up....because if you were really that stupid you'd have been drowned at birth icon_lol.gif

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I could say the same about you being the biter bit.

Or does expounding flim flam full time for a living result in not being able to see the wood for the trees?

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Cowgirl has made quite a few statements that many in Union would agree with regarding Sarries financial future.

If Quins RU stated that the breakeven for a Union club is 12,000 paying punters at 10,000 seater stadium seems rather stupid.

I believe, and can confirm when I get home that Sarries made a loss of circa £6m last year.

This is from the Times in 2010

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01 April 2010
Nigel Wray today revealed Saracens will lose nearly £3million this season, with the other 11 Guinness Premiership clubs on course for a total deficit of more than £20m.

Sarries' decision to hire Wembley for four matches this term at £200,000 per time, plus the heavy impact the credit crunch has had on corporate hospitality revenues, has left the club with yet another disturbing balance sheet.

While Saracens' future is safe thanks to their South African investors, Wray is calling on the Rugby Football Union to increase the funding to clubs to stop the sport from suffering the kind of problems that have hit football with Portsmouth and Crystal Palace going into administration this term.

The chairman, who has spent more than £15m bankrolling Saracens since 1995, is alarmed by the situation, estimating Premiership losses this term will be more than £20m with only two clubs making a profit.'"



Since then, I think that Quins has joined Leicester and Northampton in making a profit.

The truth is that few sports clubs make any money and in both codes of Rugby are hugely relliant on their Owners.

Are Sarries a success compared to us? Financially, no, we're about the same (if my memory is correct).

Will they be able to build and become financially viable, possibly. Will Broncos, not a chance.

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The last financial figures I heard from Quins was a loss of around £1m I believe.

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Quote: Cowgirl Nostalgist "................Apparently they're even contemplating a game in Belgium.
Now confirmed. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/18998701
Quote: Cowgirl Nostalgist "................Apparently they're even contemplating a game in Belgium.
Now confirmed. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/18998701


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