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| All too predictable.
Last year only one side made fewer line breaks than us. We were crying out for recruitment aimed at bringing in centres and backrowers who are capable of busting holes in defences. Instead, we focused primarily on the middle unit - Bryant, Hickey, Rinaldi, Kaufusi - only one of whom is a step up on last year's roster.
Rodney and Cook were signed as backrow runners - but both are left-sided and one is injured. Bailey has been switched (successfully) to the right but we remain without a specialist right centre. Colbon was signed as a winger but must now be rated our best option at 3 - when he gets back to fitness. Robertson is looking like a luxury we can't afford - you go out and sign top wingers only when you have top centres on board already.
So, as I say, with the players available so far I am not surprised we sit bottom of the line breaks table - just 4 in 3 games, half of Widnes's tally. We have no presence at right centre, a left centre learning the trade after converting from the wing and - due to the crazy idea of picking only 2 or 3 props in the 17 - we've sucked Rodney, Bailey and Clubb into the middle channel.
That doesn't excuse the test half of rugby ever seen, however. The first 40 mins on Sunday was shameful - low energy, no width, poor discipline, shocking errors, zero confidence. The second was massively better but not great - but that just begs the question: why?
All that said, I remain convinced it can be put right once key players are available again - Colbon, Sarginson and Cook are vital IMO because they will offer Witt and Gower runners. Howell should have played his last game at right centre and JOC should make way for Sarginson as soon as the latter is fit. Cook/Clubb/Bailey MUST do the majority of the their running 2 passes off the ruck - they aren't donkeys. The donkeys - and I mean this respectfully - are Kaufusi, Krasniqi, Te Mata, Bryant and Thomas and at this stage of the season there should always be 2 on the field and 2 on the bench.
So, Colbon and Sarginson in the centres with Cook, Clubb and Bailey offering themselves 2 passes of the ruck and life will become much easier for Gower, Witt and Dorn and potential support runners like Dixon and Robertson. Until then, we've got to make do and mend. At the very least, we need to play 4 props so as to get Clubb and Bailey running wider. With regards to centre options - especially right centre - I think we're knackered until bodies return from injury. And that's a failure of recruitment.
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| Excellent post.
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| Quote: Colly2 "All too predictable.
Last year only one side made fewer line breaks than us. We were crying out for recruitment aimed at bringing in centres and backrowers who are capable of busting holes in defences. Instead, we focused primarily on the middle unit - Bryant, Hickey, Rinaldi, Kaufusi - only one of whom is a step up on last year's roster.
Rodney and Cook were signed as backrow runners - but both are left-sided and one is injured. Bailey has been switched (successfully) to the right but we remain without a specialist right centre. Colbon was signed as a winger but must now be rated our best option at 3 - when he gets back to fitness. Robertson is looking like a luxury we can't afford - you go out and sign top wingers only when you have top centres on board already.
So, as I say, with the players available so far I am not surprised we sit bottom of the line breaks table - just 4 in 3 games, half of Widnes's tally. We have no presence at right centre, a left centre learning the trade after converting from the wing and - due to the crazy idea of picking only 2 or 3 props in the 17 - we've sucked Rodney, Bailey and Clubb into the middle channel.
That doesn't excuse the test half of rugby ever seen, however. The first 40 mins on Sunday was shameful - low energy, no width, poor discipline, shocking errors, zero confidence. The second was massively better but not great - but that just begs the question
A well thought out post which sounds correct when in words. Call it up-skilling and someone email the club pointing out some of the thoughts here.
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| Quote: Colly2 "All too predictable.
Last year only one side made fewer line breaks than us. We were crying out for recruitment aimed at bringing in centres and backrowers who are capable of busting holes in defences. Instead, we focused primarily on the middle unit - Bryant, Hickey, Rinaldi, Kaufusi - only one of whom is a step up on last year's roster.
Rodney and Cook were signed as backrow runners - but both are left-sided and one is injured. Bailey has been switched (successfully) to the right but we remain without a specialist right centre. Colbon was signed as a winger but must now be rated our best option at 3 - when he gets back to fitness. Robertson is looking like a luxury we can't afford - you go out and sign top wingers only when you have top centres on board already.
So, as I say, with the players available so far I am not surprised we sit bottom of the line breaks table - just 4 in 3 games, half of Widnes's tally. We have no presence at right centre, a left centre learning the trade after converting from the wing and - due to the crazy idea of picking only 2 or 3 props in the 17 - we've sucked Rodney, Bailey and Clubb into the middle channel.
That doesn't excuse the test half of rugby ever seen, however. The first 40 mins on Sunday was shameful - low energy, no width, poor discipline, shocking errors, zero confidence. The second was massively better but not great - but that just begs the question
Not sure if Colbon was signed as a winger but he certainly went well against Saints and Im sure Dixon is more likely to get some decent ball with him there. Really has been bad luck with him being injured in the first game. Sargy being a natural passer of the ball should be a good provider for the winger and has speed and a side step to beat players. Certainly a step up in terms of the attack. The stupid penalties, unforced errors and inept collective performance we saw on Sunday will hopefully be short lived and the return to fitness of these and other key players should see better performances over the next few weeks although the time scale of our 'injuries' remains a mystery.
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| Quote: smudgersmith "Even with the replay it is difficult to see the exact point of contact however, 100% certain it's not the face.
The point I can't get over is Sliverstick didn't have the best view, didn't have a replay, didn't have a slowmo zoom cam etc and saw enough for a red card???? not sure about that!!'"
He took a fair amount of time to make the decision, so I can only assume he saw a replay on the screen? Or was influenced by the touch judge.
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| Quote: The Penguin "Can I politely remind everyone that the posting of unauthorised YouTube links (or any other video site for that matter) is not permitted.'"
Apologies.
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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: barton baird "Thought this was a forum where things were debated ?'"
It is, until you pop in along with other numpty's like this idiot
Quote: barton baird "Against Hull you were very poor. One man kept you in it and he was the one in green It looked like the one fan you brought quite enjoyed himself. Its time you were cut loose from suoer league, Youve tried for 25 rs and got nowhere The only thing you are good for is looking after retired Aussies. Your franchise should be given to a team in the north so we can all get on with it up here. Rant over'"
Quote: barton baird "You should all thank Moa,he let you into the game after being sent off.'"
Flowers and messages of gratitude are on their way.....
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| Guilty plea and a 1 match ban
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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: Dave Lister "Guilty plea and a 1 match ban
.......off to see what the weathers like on the Hull board
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| S... you should have heard the Hull protests around us at the KC. I was convinced that they were watching a different reply on the big screen than me. However I wasn't entirely convinced it was a sending off even though Rinaldi was knocked out for a minute or so. Will watch The Super League Show recorded tonight tomorrow to see.
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33934.gif BLACK AND WHITES
East is East,West is West,
and never the twain shall meet.
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| Quote: gutterfax "It is, until you pop in along with other numpty's like this idiot
Flowers and messages of gratitude are on their way.....'"
Thanks for calling me a numpty,don`t know how I rattled your cage,but there you go.
Sure Sam will appreciate the flowers.
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| Quote: gutterfax ".......off to see what the weathers like on the Hull board
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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: Dave Lister "icon_cool.gif'"
Overcast with a chance of righteous indignation...
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