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| I think almost everyone with any interest in the club, either directly or indirectly, is convinced of Gus Mackay's gross incompetence and inadequacy for the role he is/has been employed for.
What you probably have to have some direct experience of is the self-serving and borderline evil lies he'll tell to suit himself regardless of the damage he does to others.
You see a bit of it in the flat out lies he talks to places like the BBC in order to promote himself.
But he's demonstrated some real evil in the way he's bullied some staff and players into signing compromise agreements which disadvantage them under the premise that their payments won't be paid until they sign and/or won't be paid at all because "the club will go under". He added to that that if an individual didn't sign, none of his fellow/former teammates or staff members would get their money either as the club would just close.
The disadvantages he forced on people weren't just financial - they included forcing them to sign away rights and provide indemnities to the club for the club's responsibilities.
Faced with the choice of no money ever or no money to pay mortgages, moving costs, Xmas, etc, he took advantage of these people.
That's the reason people aren't just leaving the club, but leaving the sport altogether and there's so much disguised vitriol towards him on social media.
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| Quote: Saul Hudson "I think almost everyone with any interest in the club, either directly or indirectly, is convinced of Gus Mackay's gross incompetence and inadequacy for the role he is/has been employed for.
What you probably have to have some direct experience of is the self-serving and borderline evil lies he'll tell to suit himself regardless of the damage he does to others.
You see a bit of it in the flat out lies he talks to places like the BBC in order to promote himself.
But he's demonstrated some real evil in the way he's bullied some staff and players into signing compromise agreements which disadvantage them under the premise that their payments won't be paid until they sign and/or won't be paid at all because "the club will go under". He added to that that if an individual didn't sign, none of his fellow/former teammates or staff members would get their money either as the club would just close.
The disadvantages he forced on people weren't just financial - they included forcing them to sign away rights and provide indemnities to the club for the club's responsibilities.
Faced with the choice of no money ever or no money to pay mortgages, moving costs, Xmas, etc, he took advantage of these people.
That's the reason people aren't just leaving the club, but leaving the sport altogether and there's so much disguised vitriol towards him on social media.'"
This doesn't surprise me. I think the club have pulled an outrageous stunt in clearing out players and staff in the way they have (even though some may have deserved it). How much of what we put in our licence application is currently holding true ? Any other club might have been thrown out of SL.
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| Quote: tw15 "the implication that people plan to send excrement to someone's house is over the top, cruel and illegal.
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It was a joke.
In reality I wouldn't even waste one of my farts on Gus.
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| I think everybody but tw15 realised it was a joke.
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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: CrusaderPete "I think everybody but tw15 realised it was a joke.'"
No. Somebody else took it to heart as well
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| Quote: gutterfax "No. Somebody else took it to heart as well'"
Bless
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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: Paddock Punter "Bless'"
I've checked the Pantry and the chest freezer....I've even I called upstairs to the wife to ask her, but it seems we're fresh out of sympathy!
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David Hughes - The Gerald Ratner of Rugby League? Discuss. Or not as the case may be.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_66844.jpg |
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| Quote: tw15 "the implication that people plan to send excrement to someone's house is over the top, cruel and illegal.
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In light of the recent revelations perhaps it's time to rethink a dirty protest?
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| Quote: meliferra "I genuinely beleive TK wants ownership of Broncos. He had been linked with several funny shaped ball enterprises before this.
TK's model revolves around his Membership idea and keeping punters paying all year round. His problem was that come April everyone will cancel and renew for August. By bringing in Broncos and having Womens Super League football he is hoping he can retain those members over the summer.
TK never has and I doubt he ever will prop up a club with playing funds that their off field income can't support. His method of working is to build an infrastructure that will support a larger playing budget. If Barnet Council hadnt screwed us over then we would now be playing at Copthall in a 10k stadium and not Saracens.
So if you think TK is after someone elses money - I doubt it.
If you think TK will dip into his own pocket for player funds - Nope.
What he will do is invest behind the scenes to maximise the player budget available. We have a running joke about the fact he spent 400k on solar panels instead of buying players so the club was more profitable and could afford higher wages.
If TK sees that Broncos is not viable over the next 2 years then he will walk away, if he sees that his model is working and Broncos can be a success then he will look to take them on.
From anyone looking at the Broncos balance sheet in recent times this is a sensible approach imo.
So if you're looking for a sugar daddy you've come to the wrong place, but if you want someone who will work towards a long term future then maybe he is the right person for the job.'"
Thanks for the post meliferra, most informative.
I think I can summarise it by saying that TK is a businessman, where as our current chairman, for all his largesse, ain't.
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| Quote: gutterfax "IIRC the "need to move" was first raised in 2012.
Why?
Match day costs coupled with marketing and marketing staff delivered a cost of £525k and a revenue from tickets, Season tickets and commercials of £543k....so £1,400 profit per home tie.
Administration costs were £532,000.
Coaching costs were £524,000
The Academy costs was £129,000
If I were going to swing the hatchet, I'd have started with Administration and the Coaching Staff who between them deliver 48% of the LOSS made by the business. How many coaches were costing us half a million?
£10,000 a week on administration? Administrating what? This is EXCLUDING the marketing and marketing wages....which whilst I am on it, doesn't add up either.
£205,000 marketing spend spent by a department on £100,000 wages
IF these figures are true (and I'm not in a position to corroborate them), then it makes me quite angry. Even allowing for the differential between salaries and the actual costs to the business of employing someone, like you say, the numbers just don't seem to stack up.
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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: Perry "IF these figures are true (and I'm not in a position to corroborate them), then it makes me quite angry. Even allowing for the differential between salaries and the actual costs to the business of employing someone, like you say, the numbers just don't seem to stack up.'"
They are correct to the nearest £1,000......I have no reason to doubt the sources.
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| 1000k+ away fans from Wigan/Saints/Leeds will hopefully help with the profits for AK. Especially on the beer sales. Broncos do have the capacity to sell 5k seats for games quite easily, SL is a bigger product than semi-pro soccer, so potentially we could make AK very happy.
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| Quote: Perry "I think I can summarise it by saying that TK is a businessman, '"
For me the jury is still out on TK ! and will be for another year or so, Khan at Bradford Bulls was seen as a savour for the club and for how long?
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| You have the 'new ground' factor, people that would usually um and ah will probably think yeah why not it's a new ground.
That could help bring in a few thousand extra over the season.
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| Bees fans have made it clear on here thet TK will not take on the Broncos and lose money so how DH is going to make this work to get TK to become the owner is a mystery to all of us. However we may as well enjoy the ride in 2014 as it may be our last so im just hoping we see a competitive season to finish off with.
It sounds like the location is certainly good for people travelling with the underground 10 mts walk away which will encourage some curious people to give it a try and this will be much easier for way fans to get to as well so if we do get a competitive team (at least at home) there could be a good atmosphere there.
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