so the Quinns 6 seasons get averaged aout with the previous 10 and the next 2, perhaps you need to go back to school and learn how to do statistics properly, now compare the 6 Quinns seasons with the previous 6 only and study the trend! I don't need to, I was there and saw the crowds drop from 6k to 3k!!!!

And as for the double-headers, do not make me laugh, I had friends who went (Harlequinns fans actually) and they ALL report that most of the crowd left before the RL game when the Union was first and arrived owards the end of the RL game when the Union was second!

Don't knock creative accounting.

I still think we missed a trick by not opening for Lady Gaga at Twickers.

How? I know nothing about Harlequins, please enlighten me.

It's a club run by stockbrokers for stockbrokers.

True, I spose the club is situated right next door to the Stockbroker belt if Surrey. I think Wasps and Sarries fans are more open minded to entertaining RL. There were a lot if positive words on the Sarries forum, with some asking to offer Allianz Park as a temporary ground if we couldn't sort out The Hive.
"A Friend in need" and all that...

whereas of course linking up with professional football, which is run by honest, salt of the earth, straight-arrow types, is entirely preferable.

You might laugh at the Quins name or their pastel shirts, but they're successful and well supported. Sharing a ground and a shirt with them did us no harm at all, and our lack of success during that period was very little to do with being called Harlequins RL.

Maybe so, but I don't see how after our stint under their flag of convenience we derived much real benefit. We just ended up effectively as tenants again, albeit this time with a pretty poor team and falling crowds.

ask the RFL how many watched Wales Italy or Australia v Fiji at RLWC.
Double headers are apparently IN this year

296,257 for the 6 seasons up to and including 2005....3,527 per game. Remove the double headers all together and the QuinsRL average still comes in at 3,585.

Go on...send me back to school again! Is there another way you'd like to try and show that Quins name and ground was damaging???? I can do this all day

We had a great opportunity as Quins RL but failed to take advantage of it.

Nobody says we benefitted. I am just countering the myth that the clubs woes are in any way shape or form down to the arrangement.

No and I don't remember saying they are down to anything other than poor marketing, poor publicity and poor management, I just get annoyed by the constant "we should link up with Saracens", "We should link up with Wasps" etc etc et al. Because that ain't the answer either!

Right now, we need a product, and then we need the marketing and PR that comes with launching a product and we need a management team capable of not shooting themselves in the foot!

Not saying we should link up with Sarries at all.They have a partnership with Wigan Warriors.mJust saying that I have found the Wasps and Sarries fans to be more understanding of our situation having been nomadic themselves.

Chill.

I'm not saying they are entirely but they way it was arranged as far as I could see was ( as YOU have also said before) as a Kevin Costner type 'if you play RL in pastels they will come'.

As another poster says it was a missed opportunity, agreed no question, but so was the Broncos relaunch! We've a bloody history of missed opportunities! I don't accept that somehow Harlequins RL is no way shape or form the only part of our existence that has nothing to do with the mess we are in now!

BTW, you got a touch of insomnia going on? Or just up early to make a start on the Christmas shopping?