Sounds good to me.

Prices have fell actually. In my block (AG), I will be paying £49 (Student). IIRC it was £99 last year - this is now the Adult price in AG.

Sensible from the club opening 1 stand IMO. No need for 2 half empty stands miles away from each other.

Poor decision.......but given the standard of play at the moment we might as well put the home and away supporters in the North end (should be plenty of room in the future), close all the bars (added bonus here, no bars = no need for toilets) , sack the aftermatch entertainment, play all our games at noon so that we never run the risk of turning the flood lights on.......and then SKY will only have to have one camera pointing South to North.

With all that money saved for player development we should be world-beaters in no time and the punters will come flocking in.

Seriously.....I am in the process of penning a letter (been at it for weeks ) have the choice of leave it or lump it.

*First season as Quins RL we were in the East stand. I think the West stand was then still under construction.

Weren't season ticket holders put in the East in 2006, then moved to West for 2007 and 2008, then moved back to the East this year?

At least that is how I remember it.

GF

The idea of moving season ticket holders to another stand for Sky games is ludicrous and would be impossible to implement.

You then suggest opening the Kings Bar for a few hours after the game? So what, we get some staff in and open a bar the size of the Kings Bar for a couple of hours? Ridiculous. When I ever went into the West Stand I would always go into the Kings Bar anyway.

People are going on and on about the atmosphere being better in the West. Please explain WHY this is the case, and cannot be possible in the East Stand.

The East stand just feels further away from the pitch (it is) and therefore, less a part of the game experience. Also, why should we be the only club that doesn't have sets of supporters facing each other. There were plenty of games at GP when it would have been easier to just close the terrace and stick the away fans in the west corner of the ground beside us, but we didn't, because that's the way sport is. Singing "top of the league, you're having a laugh" to St Helens fans sat 4 rows across, is not as much fun as singing it across the pitch at them.
It is utter bollox that the cost involved is the reason. The temp staff work the hours they are told to. The stewards would have no extra work load. 2 beer wagons and the west bar for home fans with the Kings open for all post game.
It just stinks of laziness on the part of the club. Nobody appears to be doing anything.
The idea of working for Quins RL should be the most important thing on the staffs mind, not how to do SFA and get paid for it. 1 ex-member of staff lasted 2 years and sold 1 box........a perfect example of the work ethos at TW2......in my humble opinion that is!

I actually found the request for this donation quite offensive. Maybe I'm just a tight git.

I also found it quite amusing, they should absorb it in the price of the season ticket. If that means they can't hit the magic £99 mark then so be it.

If you consider how few season ticket holders we have currently and take away those who won't renew (which I imagine will be significant after another dismal season) then take away those who won't pay the £5 and I don't see how they will get enough money to make any significant difference.

I, in all honesty, would charge £99 across the board unallocated. Then, £40 to get an allocated seat on a first come first served basis.
I would then offer an optional £65 charge for "club membership", giving you access to the players bar and a 10% store discount.
An additional £65 would get you pre-match meals in the "jesters club".

if you want to go the whole hog, you pay £20 a game, if you want just Rugby, £7.61 a game.

As for the development tax.........they really are taking the p155.

Less than 1,000 ST's in 2010......There's progress for you. In 2 years time we will probably have 12 London Born England internationals but no fans and no licence...t'riffic

So an extra 5 yards or so kills the atmosphere and you can justify opening another stand because of this small piece of concrete? You make it sound like you are miles away from the pitch like at Hull KR. The players can hear you.

I don't understand your point about GP. The situation there is the same as what it will be next season. For the teams with decent away followings, i.e the vast majority, the North Stand will be open so you can sing at them all you like.

You honestly think it is just because the club are lazy? I have often criticized them before but I do not see how this is lazy. This is logical and makes the most sense. Two stands is enough. Fill one or even think about getting near filling one before thinking about opening another of the same size.

You idea about singing across at other fans falls on its @rse somewhat. You think its better singing across the whole pitch than from one side to the other? Ever been to Leeds? Do those on the Western Terrace and those in the South Stand struggle to communicate?

Sorry, but I enjoyed the "cross field" banter in 2007.........and as I said, we are the only club to do this.

OK.....Let's try this one then.
A crowd of 4,250 will fill the east stand.

If you were a first time fan, would you think that:

a/ it slightly odd that there are 3 empty stands....do these guys pay rent on the stands if they open them?
b/ think....wow, that was great. I got to sit beside an 18 stone northerner who tried to set fire to his jersey because his team were losing.
c/ I wonder why the stewards didn't step in when that older couple pointed out that there were away fans sat in their £300+ seats
or...my personal favourite.....
d/ why is that 15 year old from Hull drunk, smoking and telling me his dad says London bring nothing to Rugby League.

All of these I have witnessed this year at the Stoop..........and none enhanced my enjoyment of the game (though the jersey one was funny after the game)

I am not talking about seggregation here, just saying that the west stand "seems" more comfy (for no tangible reason) and the club have taken the easier (but not cheaper) option with no consultation between them and the people who pay their wages.
I predict less ST sales in 2010....that's less revenue from life-long fans who have had enough.
As they say, it takes years to find a needle in a haystack, but a second to lose it......and that is the same for CUSTOMERS.

Fact is, the East Stand is 5yrds further from the pitch and for some strange reason, doesn't feel as comfy as the west. There is no logical reason for it, it just doesn't.
The cost of policing the west stand and east stand, would be no more than the East and the north.
The cost of opening the west bar for home fans only, having 2 trucks at the sides of the stand and then ....closing the west bar after the second half starts, moving the staff across and suplementing them with a few more at 4.44pm is negligable and therefore, I say it is logistically viable, but maybe just a tad too much work for some.

It doesn't feel as comfy? What a pathetic argument - I could understand some others on here coming out with that one but not you GF. This isn't down to your comment about you watching the game from the building site either, more down to the fact that is a very weak argument with no evidence whatsoever apart from a few people who enjoy moaning for what ever reason. The main problems people list with the east stand are:

The sun
The walkway in front of it

And

Erm

???

Its not comfy?! WTF? Its a plastic seat, sit on it!

To be honest I trust the people who run the Twickenham Stoop with regards to the costings and logistics as I am sure they have a fair idea what they are doing. What information do you have with regards to costs?

Plus, you keep mentioning 3 empty stands - there will be 2 empty stands and this is justified given our current levels of supports and I cannot see us getting to the point where we will need to open the 2 largest stands or even 3 stands.