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Having read GF's many posts on this subject and after discussing this thorny issue with him privately, I feel it's worth me giving my views on it.

The club took up seventeen years of my life, both as a fan and later as a member of staff. The only period during that time that the club had any sense of purpose and resources regarding building a bigger fanbase was during the Virgin ownership. Various 'marketing gurus' came and went before, during and after espousing variations on the "we've huge potential", "most important rugby (sic) club in the world", "ten thousand within five years" schticks only to be faced with a reality: professional RL in London struggles with any kind of consistant profile and its ability to attract regular support.

The club are continually hamstrung by a lack of finance when it comes to projecting themselves to the eight million or so in the capital. Without a good deal more investment in terms of actual budget as well as bodies to do the jobs, it will continue to struggle. Contrast Quins RU's marketing department with the RL one. Contrast the amount of full-time admin staff working for QRL with their RU counterparts. The club remains under-resourced. It's one of the reasons I left.

The club deserves to do well but I feel it has always tried to fight its battles with one hand tied behind it...
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Quote: gutterfax "do you have selective eyesight or are you just a wind up merchant? Who else should we criticise then? Ken Livingstone? Lord Lucan?

FFS.....The club have been Harlequins Rugby League for three years now.
In that time, we have finished 7th, 9th and 9th and seen our average crowd numbers fall to 3,850 this year.

Put into perspective, we finished 6th in our last year as the London Broncos and averaged 4,000 fans....and before you say anything, the 2005 Broncos were running at break even, the debts were accrued well before then.

As for doing something, I have offered (and had accepted by the RFL but not Harlequins Rugby League) my services free of charge on countless occasions. I have also helped organise leaflet drops. I can only continue to offer and be ignored so many times. If the RFL think that I am "just the kind of passionate person that QRL needs to market the game" but the club disagree.....what else can I do.

Finally......this is a forum where opinions are voiced and if the club choose to view my opinions with disdain, then fine....but remember this, in the 6 odd years I have been a supporter of the club, they have made NO PROGRESS when it comes to attendance figures.......and they have made NO PROGRESS when it comes to public awareness (even on a local level)'"


Fans action doesnt need to be organised by the club. (i sort of skim read your post so hope I didnt miss anything important icon_wink.gif )

Couldnt we havea 'crowdbuilder' instead of a 'squadbuilder' thing going organised by the fans?
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I used to be a season ticket holder and did a few things for the club over a number of years and yesterday the club contacted me via e-mail asking if I'd be interested in coming back and offering a free shirt for getting a season ticket.

I thought it was a very good peice of marketing and one that I would accept apart from the fact that my life has changed a lot of late and Quins are no longer the big draw they once were.

If I were the club, I'd offer all the local schools free tickets for students accompanied by an adult. Do this for a couple of weeks, then offer the local kids a discounted ticket with a full payinmg adult.

If this doesn't work, nothing will.
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Count me in for the £5, but the wrangle over how it is spent will be something else!
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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png
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Quote: poplar panther "Count me in for the £5, but the wrangle over how it is spent will be something else!'"

mm...possibly.

If there were say 750 people contributing, then they would elect a team/committee of 5 to "oversee" the spend. This committee would have to agree by a 4/1 + majority on the spend.....not ideal, but £45,000 to spend over the course of a season only equates to just short of £3.5k a game, so any mistakes/failures wouldn't be the end of the world would it.
I know that the club should be doing this, but I would have no problem giving up my time to help with such a program.
If the 750 members all had an opportunity to put forward ideas, which the elected committee could then vote on, then it would get the approval of the club I don't think there would be too many foul ups.
I tell you what....how funny would it be if (and it will never even get past the dreamland of these boards) this Fans Funded Marketing Group actually made a difference.....icon_lol.gif
If we got an extra 10,000 over the season, that would be a 20% increase at no cost to the Club.......and the Marketing Team (as such that there is one) would look very silly indeed.
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Ah a man with a plan, excellent, the five person committee could be called The Directorate, I am not greatly in favour of things run by committee, I am reminded of the camel that came out of a committe that was trying to design a horse! But if we have the talent, time, funds and permission this could be very inovative.
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Quote: poplar panther "Ah a man with a plan, excellent, the five person committee could be called The Directorate, I am not greatly in favour of things run by committee, I am reminded of the camel that came out of a committe that was trying to design a horse! But if we have the talent, time, funds and permission this could be very inovative.'"


Well I disagree, I think it should be called The Taskforce.

(I don't really, I just wanted to write some rubbish)
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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png
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Quote: The Penguin "Well I disagree, I think it should be called The Taskforce.

(I don't really, I just wanted to write some rubbish)'"

Ladies and Gentlemen...we have our first committee member. icon_cool.gif
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Quote: gutterfax "Ladies and Gentlemen...we have our first committee member.
That's what im talking about, im in...but I want it called 'Crowdbuilder' icon_biggrin.gif icon_wink.gif Season ticket prices are too cheap anyway, so fans could contirbute the difference between what they're paying and what they should be paying to the fans marketing force.
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Quote: Tre Cool "That's what im talking about, im in...but I want it called 'Crowdbuilder'
Marketing & CrowdBuilder Taskforce Committee Directorate.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png
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Quote: The Penguin "Marketing & CrowdBuilder Taskforce Committee Directorate.

Gun.'"

we'll have to vote on what it's called icon_cool.gif
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