whats the salary cap these days? does it go off the amount of money the club brings in??

How much wire/pies and saints can get away with

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Do we believe that moving times affects the attendance- Are our lives that structured that we aren’t flexible enough to adjust (that’s a question not a statement). I have friends who travel to watch Man Utd from the south and they have commented that Utd play most of there games outside of the traditional Sat afternoon at 3pm. This doesn’t appear to affect them and there attendance record- Isolated example I accept.

I don’t know what the general feeling is from the supporters but I’m not convinced the date/time the game is played is a huge factor, although I’m happy to accept it is a factor- you could also cite

Poor team- undoubtedly success brings in fans-just look at Chelsea’s popularity, Wigan’s increased crowds
Recession- there is no question the working class budgets are tighter
Away fans have more than one attractive away day-Catalans etc- I hear the don’t rely on away fans call
Transient club- Moving between grounds regularly doesn’t held build roots

I’m sure those who have stopped going have there own and I suspect very different reasons for not attending.

For me I get to see top class rugby league(!!!) in a superb facility, relatively cheap. Having watched the game at Wilderspool for years I know where I would prefer to watch rugby league and that includes more recently the modern HJ stadium. All you get there is what you pay for-if it’s a terraced ticket you get to stand and grab a beer from the concourse – nothing else. How is that better than what’s served up at the Stoop.

Life is about choices- CB you like your speedway (I used to watch Bell Vue and lived in the same road as Peter Collins ex WC) but my preference is league.

Agree entirely that they need to settle on a given day/time for all home matches (and accept that SKY will mess up any arrangement at some stage). Having a permanent home should have resolved this, but game day and ko time is as chaotic now as it was in years gone by.

I remember that some time ago the club said they were to experiment with match day arrangements and decide on what was best (taking into account the views expressed by the fans), but when did they or when will they arrive at a decision??? I agree that in the meantime this constant change is probably costing us fans.

I seem to recall that you were a strong supporter of a Sunday game and I think this influences your comments.......I prefer Saturday, so on this issue we will have to agree to disagree.

With regard to factual evidence.......well the crowd numbers are an indicator that the Sunday games are not a great success. I am not privvy to the till receipts in the bar, but as I attend all the home games (you should try it ) I can state that the bar is busier on Saturday evenings after the game than on a Sunday when many seem to drift away straight after the game.......does not take much working out.

The bar is much busier when we've won, which (sadly) isn't very often! (I make it 27 wins out of 61 games at The Stoop which I think is at the heart of the problem).

If I'm wrong, no doubt Gutters will correct me.

It does seem a long time ago now.

2006 we managed 8 home wins (creditable) and last year a meagre 4. 2009 was strange when you consider we were in the top 8 'til round 22 yet we only saw 4 wins. It was a crap year that has been followed by a worse one (so far).

I think our form as the Harlequins sums up the whole Harlequin RL project : promised much, delivered little (so far). I can remember Nic Cartwright saying how much easier it would be to attract money and sponsors when we become Harlequins. Not! and Nic was (is) a good guy who worked his ass of for the club in very difficult times.

To be fair though, Pop Pan, we have had an awful amount of bad luck since we became Quins (CEO's packing up because of ill-health, Chairman going because of job changes, Owners deserting us to buy another club, players signing for us and not even turning up, not forgetting what has seemed like an inexhaustible injury list since day 1.)

Add to the above the French debacle last year, supporters coaches breaking down on the way to and from games, the ridiculous multiple bans that only we seem to get (and of course, the refereeing down here which is usually against us, because we haven't got enough fans to get on the refs back!).

Oh, and it would help one day if we could win our first home game of the season.

Having said all that, I am still positive that things can turnaround and being Quins at The Stoop is still our best bet (and I'm speaking as someone who has a 1 and half hour journey to get to The Stoop).

A couple of seasons ago there was a poll for fans to choose a day and kick-off time. Saturday 3pm won, I seem to recall.

Nothing seems to have gone right since we moved back to the Stoop. Hopefully soon our luck will change.