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My worry is that Joey admits that Sheffield 'out enthused us' - Isn't it his job to do just that? How long before he admits he can't enthuse the team? His post match interview v Dewsbury said it all to me. I saw that look on TR's face pre-season last year it does not bode well.

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Unfortunately the club's culture for the past few season has been one of failure both on and off the pitch and is going to be very difficult to change. The problem in my opinion starts at the top and sadly until this changes then LB as a club will continue to suffer.

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If Keyes and Thomas are not the answer change it. Foran or someone else. Saints won the grand final with no halves.
There are no excuses JG front up & stop looking shocked in your interviews. If you haven't got the answers there are people who have.

Get them out on the training pitch and smash enthusiasm into them. It's the least you can expect from a full time pro. For Christ sake sheffields players are back at work today earning a living. They weren't bothered about getting injured yesterday more showing the London 'glory boys' how to play tough
rugby.

You don't see pleasantries on McGuire, Wanes and others faces. More an inner determination to succeed

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What we need is an older, experienced and slightly cynical coach who puts the fear of God into both the players and opposition as they think he's the illegitimate spawn of Satan.

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Quote: The Chronicler of Chiswic "What we need is an older, experienced and slightly cynical coach who puts the fear of God into both the players and opposition as they think he's the illegitimate spawn of Satan.'"
Bring back Tony Currie !

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Hi,
I come in peace.
I'm a little bit disappointed you are having a go at Joey Grima and the players.( You did give more time to other coaches and your assessment of Brian McDermott has proved to be incorrect.)
Admittedly,teams who travel to longer than usual away games do seem to find an extra camaraderie on the field but in yesterdays game your players were interrupted by the lengthy delays and serious looking injuries to their teammates.
The owner of a Super League club who attracts attention of one of the critics on this forum,and the VT,sacked a coach last year,the highly decorated Brian Noble,who banged on about requiring 'time to gel' about his players;up to and beyond his overdue sacking.
Joey Grima not only requires time for his team of 'new' players to gel but he has the problem of a totally new spine to the side.The hooker,half backs and full back are all new,as is the loose forward,and it will take time for an understanding.
They met a Sheffield side who fired on all cylinders and are confident playing at The Keepmoat.
It's a long season and things change very quickly.
The travel,the weather,the injuries,the newness,lots of variables and the vicissitudes of sport.

Oh,having seen Jamie Soward at The Stoop.Thanks for the memories! icon_thumb.gif Even the relatively new NRL coaching teams and players didn't win as convincingly against Warrington and Wigan as the more settled NRL side,last night.

Keep the faith - If you do lose again - do it at Blackpool icon_biggrin.gifANCE:

Pleased the injured players are not as badly hurt as first feared.

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Quote: Angelic Cynic "Hi,
I come in peace.
I'm a little bit disappointed you are having a go at Joey Grima and the players.( You did give more time to other coaches and your assessment of Brian McDermott has proved to be incorrect.)
Admittedly,teams who travel to longer than usual away games do seem to find an extra camaraderie on the field but in yesterdays game your players were interrupted by the lengthy delays and serious looking injuries to their teammates.
The owner of a Super League club who attracts attention of one of the critics on this forum,and the VT,sacked a coach last year,the highly decorated Brian Noble,who banged on about requiring 'time to gel' about his players;up to and beyond his overdue sacking.
Joey Grima not only requires time for his team of 'new' players to gel but he has the problem of a totally new spine to the side.The hooker,half backs and full back are all new,as is the loose forward,and it will take time for an understanding.
They met a Sheffield side who fired on all cylinders and are confident playing at The Keepmoat.
It's a long season and things change very quickly.
The travel,the weather,the injuries,the newness,lots of variables and the vicissitudes of sport.

Oh,having seen Jamie Soward at The Stoop.Thanks for the memories!
Thanks for that but we all have a miserable feeling that the slide will continue.

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Gelling and enthusiasm are two completely different things.

Moves not coming off I can accept, not competing for kicks I cant?

Not sure our assessment of Mac was wrong. The proof will be in the pudding over the next couple of years as the core players age and need swapping out at Leeds. Man Utd were successful for years centred on a core of players.

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Quote: daftdad "Unfortunately the club's culture for the past few season has been one of failure both on and off the pitch and is going to be very difficult to change. The problem in my opinion starts at the top and sadly until this changes then LB as a club will continue to suffer.'"


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Think it's been said, we have only played for forty minutes of rugby. We have been comprehensively outplayed the other 200 minutes. The only 40 mins of play was while Doncaster struggled to get rid of their travel legs once the second half started they dominated. Also in that 200 minutes we have only scored 18 points. Both away games, Dewsbury and Sheffield have been fresher and against that our true colours have been evident, no fight and little penetration, but more worryingly no real clue in defence. Long season without some fundamental kicks up the proverbial.

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Quote: daftdad "Unfortunately the club's culture for the past few season has been one of failure both on and off the pitch and is going to be very difficult to change. The problem in my opinion starts at the top and sadly until this changes then LB as a club will continue to suffer.'"


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The only problem with the change at the top, their is no replacement at the moment! Remember what happened when the man in charge last walked away, the hordes of investors wanting to take us on caused a stampede.
Hmmmm maybe not

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Quote: mickyb1234 " Remember what happened when the man in charge last walked away'"

All to well. And after 5 years of bungling, Hughes wobbled and we missed out on any chance of avoiding the drop in 2014, were at the mercy of a ruthless potential landlord who drove a hard bargain in regard to terms for accepting us for 1 year with a second year option and being steered by an absolute numpty of a CEO who is still unemployed 12 months after falling on his sword.

Hughes was and is the problem........we aren't going to get promoted but we are even less attractive now than we were when he "wobbled".

Instead, if Hughes had played hard ball like Lenegan wanted to, the RFL would have had no choice but to let Lenegan stay on as an investor.....we'd have had no Blanchard nor Mackay and you can be damn sure that we would have been marketed properly as Harlequins RL.

Still, at least we'll be competitive in the championship eh c020.gif c020.gif

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Quote: enigmatic "...being steered by an absolute numpty of a CEO who is still unemployed 12 months after falling on his sword...

...Still, at least we'll be competitive in the championship eh Ah yes. Gustalgia and patronising emoticons.
New name, same old drone.

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Quote: Perry "Ah yes. Gustalgia and patronising emoticons.
New name, same old drone.'"


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