Dunno not checked my Rothmans or Gillette books. However Saints change of attitude is apparent. Ours I've yet to see. Tomorrow perhaps. Likelihood narrow.

Maybe has more to do with Kieron Cunningham ?

What is it at Saints? such a dramatic change, okay some of the younger players may have come through the youth system with Mike Rush but I had never heard of him until he started working with St Helens, okay Kieron may be an influence, but then all of a sudden the wheels have come off with Mac at Leeds??

I thought it was traditional for Leeds to have a blip before their fixture with Bradford. A couple of losses for them is hardly a crisis.

We have not won two home games back to back since 2010. Castleford 16/05/10 40-24 and Crusaders 23/05/10 50-22. Oh and we got tonked away at Wakefield between those two fixtures. Since then only 4 home wins (Bradford 2010, Crusaders and Leeds 2011, Castleford 2012). Start winning consistently at home and people might believe more in the team. Win today and a hat-trick is on at home. We have not done that since 2007 (Wigan, Hull KR and Catalan).

I'm hoping for a win today. I just can't see where it will come from.

They are capable of beating anyone IMO - just depends whether they play to their capabilities - which hasn't happened yet. We could win comfortably and look like highly motivated champions, or play like they have many times this season - clueless and lethargic. I just think we should look at it as building for next season now, getting the players gelling, improving the young players abilities and experience, improving the defence (if possible) and identify new signings to change things next season. Have to assume that the new coach will start after this season imo.

I'm not sure they are capable of beating anyone, as conceding 30+ points per game would suggest you will lose most games.

Did I hear Clarky say the top teams conceded on average 16-20 points per game over a season.

Consensus rlhererl was that we'd finish about 8th/9th.

How is it looking now? 13th for me.

Im going to be positive as I think we will win this tonight with near enough a full compliment available.
The win should then guarantee RP his job for the forseeable future.
Sorry to have reverted to negativity, I was doing so well there for a minute.

We have to win 3 games to get 4th bottom which is the next group in the league (thats if they dont pick any points up)

We are in a 4 way battle for the bottom slot

But the bloke sat next to him and pulling the strings wasn't a bad player

Last season Will Sharpe was going nowhere as he did not have the 100% backing of his coach. However the arrival of a new coach has been instrumental in Will becoming a highly prized member of our team, and he has in fact been voted as man of the match. This to me illustrates the importance of an experienced coach, who is able to mould a player's performances. This is not particularly a swipe at Rob Powell as I would love to see all teams coached by a British coach.

At what stage does the whole club situation become unacceptable. Powell is responsible for the product and therefore indirectly the crowd

Gus must be pulling the little hair he has out-How can he doe his job with this rubbish

Will Leeds be the end-(I Know!!)

It feels as if we are just surviving, when you go on the club website and then transfer to the club shop which seems to be direct to the manufacturer have you seen how little we seem to have in stock now, email's to the manufacturer are never replied to?