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Quote: gutterfax "They also did not respond to the question about us 100% being at the hive in 2015'"


Can I suggest you direct message @LondonBroncosRL and ask them to clarify what the future holds ? I did, its easy.

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If Wigan bring 1000 fans down with them this weekend it might change things a bit.

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In fact we've still got to play Wigan, Saints and Leeds at home yet. I would suggest AK is waiting to see what he brings in from these games before making a decision. Surely the 3 biggest crowds of the year?

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Trouble is they dont play us next year. He's not a stupid man and I reckon he can see some potential. Then again he could be the reliable source.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: PC Plum "Can I suggest you direct message @LondonBroncosRL and ask them to clarify what the future holds ? I did, its easy.'"

why would/should I ask them? London Broncos is hardly a topic that dominates the sporting landscape, so surely it wouldn't be too much for them to actually answer the question that has already been posed by someone else? They were asked to 100% guarantee that we'd be at the hive next year.....
...or you could let us know what they replied to you. Surely if it was a definite "yes, we'll be at the Hive next year" you'd have posted it by now?

I started this thread based on info I have got from a reliable source.....I have not claimed it is gospel but I have still seen NOTHING to make me think that my source has got it wrong.

BTW, the 4 biggest draw cards yet to visit London means little in the scheme of 2015......Bradford, Saints, Leeds and Wigan are not Fev, Fax, and Leigh. A quick glance at the Championship attendances at Sheffield point to why AK is holding out for some guaranteed income AKA rent!

1,156 average this year, even if you believe that figure is accurate and is based on paying customers icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif , has delivered about 20k a game on the door for AK.........we really are reaping all that good work done by that Chimp Mackay arent we k020.gif

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Fair enough GF you are the man. You have an answer for everything. So if it proves inaccurate that we aren't at The Hive in 2015 will you f@#k off this board?

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: PC Plum "Fair enough GF you are the man. You have an answer for everything. So if it proves inaccurate that we aren't at The Hive in 2015 will you f@#k off this board?'"

Oh dear! I seem to have rattled your cage somewhat.
As for me leaving these boards.....I did that for a while recently and I believe both parties are healthier for it. As such, I'll post when and where I like thanks. If you don't like it, you know where the door is!

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Quote: gutterfax "Oh dear! I seem to have rattled your cage somewhat.
As for me leaving these boards.....I did that for a while recently and I believe both parties are healthier for it. As such, I'll post when and where I like thanks. If you don't like it, you know where the door is!'"


Cool, so if your reliable source proves inaccurate, will you apologise for getting it wrong ?

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The more I hear of GFs assumption the less convinced I become that his version of events is true. The evidence put forward in the initial post just does not support the house of cards that is being built on it. I can understand the Hive wanting to renegotiate in the circumstances, but I have seen no justification for either side to end Broncos stay. If it is being negotiated then how on earth can anyone answer a question to confirm/ deny a question that asks for 100% certainty in it's response?

Maybe the supporters association can pop the question this weekend.

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It would be idiotic of the club to confirm they are off before sorting a new ground. If London announce they are homeless all potential landlords know they have them over a barrel and rents are nailed on to rise. I know Broncos announced they were leaving The Stoop before sorting The Hive deal, hopefully those in charge now have slightly more brains.

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Quote: PC Plum "Cool, so if your reliable source proves inaccurate, will you apologise for getting it wrong ?'"


But that is the point, his reliable source does not appear to claim that Broncos will be homeless, only that the Hive are not interested in Broncos staying on the same terms as this year. It is an embellishment by GF. I suggest he goes back to his source and gets some clarification.

GF - Did your source say Broncos have no choice but to leave the Hive at the end of the season?

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I dont believe GF or his imaginary friend sorry reliable source

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: gutterfax ".....the hive aren't interested in the year 2 option in regards to the broncos in 2015. Brave new dawn looking like another complete clusterfffffk!
.......this is not negativity for negativity's sake by the way. It's just what I've heard from a reliable source.'"


Just to clarify what I said and to clear the muddied waters created by PCP et al.

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So what are you saying? The Broncos wont be playing at the Hive in 2015 or the Hive dont want us to play there but we will be playing there?

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: PC Plum "So what are you saying? The Broncos wont be playing at the Hive in 2015 or the Hive dont want us to play there but we will be playing there?'"

Is English not your first language?
Not sure if the speed at which I type is a problem for you, but here we go AGAIN:

.....the ....hive..... aren't..... interested...... in..... the..... year...... 2.... option... in.... regards.... to....... the...... broncos..... in..... 2015......

Now, this can mean any number of things, one of which is the club having to move again. It also means that we may stay and pay rent, although if the £250k or so in ticket revenue as well as the residual income from bars etc and not forgetting the RFL "stipend" of a Marketing Budget for him to spend..... that our Partner/landlord/potential owner (select what makes you feel warm and fuzzy) has reaped this year isn't enough for him, it does mean we could end up paying more for the Hive than the Stoop was costing us. (£222,244 was the match day costs entered on the 2012 P&L accounts compiled by the supreme African Ball Dropper.....a document sent to me by my imaginary friend BTW)

What happens depends on Hughes and his preparedness to support the club next year and into the future. We get £900,000 or so next year from SKY and the rumoured cap for SL2/The Championship is £1,200,000 so I suspect to "COMPETE" with the top tier of that group, we need to turn over in excess of £2,500,000......I can tell you now that without Hughes propping us up, we have NEVER come within £400,000 of that number...and that was with a damn sight more fans and associated income.

At £20 a ticket (and let's face it, this is championship RL we are talking about.....will we get that much?) and based on 11 home games and then (if we make the middle icon_cool.gif 4 more home ties, that would require an average attendance of 5,333 after you take the £900,000 parachute payment away from the £2,500,000.

Now, call me a pessimist and no disrespect to the good folk from Fax, Fev and Leigh, but not a snowballs.......not even close. The REALITY is that we will be lucky to get 10% of that required average.....we currently get 21% of it. No sponsors (nor investors) will be interested in a lower tier club, so the shortfall will need to come from an Owner........as the trap door is effectively shutting on us in respect of P&R it will only be down to how guilty Hughes feels for the mess he has created. I believe I have already covered my thoughts on this mess in previous threads icon_biggrin.gif .

So, as I said in the first post.....the Hive aren't into the 2nd year option as hastily arranged by Blake Solly at the 11th hour.

They say you reap what you sew and this looks like being a bumper harvest icon_cheers.gif

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