A forum is somewhere for debate and discussion......the discussion here is where will we play next year and whilst someone highlighted the excellent job being done by sarries, someone else tried to deride it.....quoting free tickets and special offers.....I pointed out we should be so lucky.
Sorry if the idea of a debate upsets you.

WTF?
Seriously??

I have shown how they got a few hundred less for 1 game than Quins RL did in 2 entire seasons and you still want to have a pop?

Without the Wembley game, they still average twice the size gate that the London SL team gets.....yet you still reckon they're crap?

8,000,000 off the cost of their OWN STADIUM whilst the Broncos are resigned to another year of tenancy and nomadic existance.


I don't have an endless supply of Irony meters...please think of that before you post on this topic again...

Marketing wise they're geniuses.

Managing to parlay crowds made up of McFly fans, & similar type eventers, into a stadium paid for by a multi-national is mightily impressive.

It's all smoke & mirrors though.

They're failing upwards like Enron & one day it will go tits up.

Boom......there goes another irony meter.

PS Seems even world class flim flam has its limits. www.saracens.com/news/view.php?Id=5174 Still nice to know Gus isn't the only CEO making wild crowd claims they couldn't deliver.

PS Seems even world class flim flam has its limits. www.saracens.com/news/view.php?Id=5174 Still nice to know Gus isn't the only CEO making wild crowd claims they couldn't deliver.

Lets be honest, we'd all be happy if the club were failure with 6,000 fans like Saracens, rather than a terribly run shambles with 1,000 fans.

I also don't understand how a move to Barnet would be worthwhile. What's the point in moving from being in bed with one RU team to moving to be in bed with another RU team? Thousands of Harlequins RU fans never bothered to turn up so why Saracens fans?

Also, from my poor knowledge of RU, I believe that Harlequins have higher attendances at the Stoop than Saracens get at Watford so why would moving make any sense?

Saracens would also be happy with crowds of 6,000.

That figure will include the 55,000 who turned up to the London Double Header at Twickenham and the thousands of free tickets they gave away to season ticket holders for the Biarritz Heineken Cup game.

Having just found some info on Saracens attendances last year, their highest attendance at Watford was 7,555 and their lowest was 5,799. Everyone involved with London RL would bite your arm off for those figures for the Broncos in 2013.

For the 12 home (at Watford) European cup and league games, their average was 6,667. If the three LV Cup games are factored in that will fall as it is effectively not far off a second team competition. If the three games at Wembley and Twickenham are included the average almost triples to 17,351!

To his credit GF didn't include the massed ranks of McFly fans in his attendance figures.

& given the fact Saffercens have scaled down their ambitions to a 10,000 capacity stadium neither do they.

2010/11 3,124
2011/12 3,020

33 home games over 3 seasons.......about 18k a game average....3,166

The above Sarries attendance stats include double header events as well as a couple of Wembley events....feel free to claim free tickets if you must. The figures in red are.......well.......you know what they are and they too include DOUBLE HEADERS AND FREE TICKETS

Nope.

They built from the bottom up which is why they attract genuinely good crowds all of the time.

Whereas Saffercens rely on OTR games to pad their attendance and look good to sponsors.

Apparently they're even contemplating a game in Belgium.

Aye, I only go where the best ppl ppl are gf