not sure about the dig at Dorny for his defense?? he did not let in anythng easy today did he?? in fact I thought he was pretty solid

did not mention it before but I think wilkes works bloody hard and has some good go forward

bring on Salford next week, after a 60 point spanking will be interesting

Thought it was really poor performance today, but we got what we deserved out of it - absolutley nothing.

Two things that bugged me:
1. No passion in the first half. You could see the players walking back slowly after the trys and whenever we had a scrum, we lacked passion and enthusiasm to form one, not to mention failure to attempt tackles. Left ourselves far too much to do again.

2. Well done on the comeback, however when we went in front I wasn't confident, given there were still ten minutes left. But what annoyed me was us failing to go for the drop, in the set before they did. As soon as it came to Dureau I knew what was coming, but the players didn't for some reason. After that we had a perfect chance to kick when we were right down their end, but did nothing on the last tackle.

Think we need to see some changes in the next game badly.

You really are kidding aren't you ? Dorn's 1 on 1 defence is woeful, he has absolutely no idea what to do and for professional player that is embarrassing. Take yesterdays last try, he swallow dived to avoid making the tackle, it was laughable. There were numerous examples in this game and of most games this season where that has happened. Sam Tomkins and Sean Briscoe both Dorn's size or smaller and yet both put their body on the line as full back AND can offer the same attacking threat. Whilst we are on 1 on 1 tackles, what was The Greek doing midfield when he missed Simon (?) who then went on to make 30m upfield and low and behold another try.

Make no mistake that was a poor Catalans side missing 5 or 6 key players and we were at full strength and we looked second rate. Our defence is inept. Our attack at times quite potent but it generally kicks in when we are too far behind to make it count. Our discipline and ball control and game savvy lacking in bucketfulls, yesterday we went ahead for the first time, we receive the ball from the kick off, all very routine, and what we need to do is play out a set of six, can we ? Can we heck, we lose the ball on the second tackle and I think soon after they get a penalty. And one last point - when we get a penalty 40m out, why do we insist on tapping it, rather than punting it within 10m of the opposition line? Are our forwards that devastating that we can afford such luxuries ?

Poor day, lets hope for better in Humberside.

our defense was atrocious yesterday. too many revolving doors down the middle.

as mentioned earlier, why on earth we didnt go after the injured winger when we had two sets of six in their half is something ill never understand.

Then when we had a drop out under our sticks we stick on Pryce. ?? If he's not starting cuz of his "poor" defense, why stick him on when we are about to defend?

Still reckon he offers something different and is an asset. they try he got stick for wasnt really his fault, it just looked bad.
He was isolated on a 3 on 1 and didnt let Cats get on the outside of him and away, what was poor was that nobody got across to help him out.

I don’t think we are a bad side- Other than Hudds no team has pressured our goal line constantly-Where we fall down is poor defence in the middle of the field allowing teams to score long distance tries- Once our line is penetrated we cant scramble- Wakey scored 5 long distance tries, Hull 2 Catalans possibly 5 yesterday. We move forward well, control the ball well, put teams where we want them and then blow it.

Our brand of rugby is good- in the past under Mac when a team had scored 20 points we were beat, that’s not the case this year.

There we two momentum shifts in the game yesterday, Randalls poor pass that was picked up of the floor and a 90 metre tried scored. The tackle before that we had broken them and they were beaten suddenly they score 3 tries and the games "gone".
The second game breaker was Clubby dropping the ball in our 20 near the end. We should have taken a safety set out of our 20 ie contact, knees, drive, contact knees instead of running in to the contact at 100MPH. From there they won the game

I do like Dorn, but his 1v1 is very poor. I remember the Hull game when the Hull player just handed him off and he went flying. He is good in attack, and great under the high ball but isnt 1v1 defence the main thing at full back?

darth! are you talking about the try in the second half when they scored down there right hand side with what was actually 3 on 2? errrrr if I remember correctly he turned his back twice on the attacker and made no effort to lay a hand on him, even when the bloke has crossed the line the try is not scored until he touches down, forcing the player on the outside would have been prefered it would have made the 2 points after harder!
If thats the one you are talking about it was woeful! sorry mate
He made 1 tackle!!!!!! leaving the other blokes round him to make the effort, even when 2 other blokes made a tackle he could have come in and added weight but to be honest he could not be d!!!

The loss of the ball on the second tackle after we had just gone in to the lead was shocking, I love forwards running hard at the defence but in that situation ball retention was all that was needed, run the ball out play out the 6 and kick deep and make them score from 80 out.
For some reason we thought we needed to make impact

Appreciate that it is the holiday season and some folks will be doing other activities this weekend but an attendance of 2069 must be very disappointing given the fact that the weather is so nice????

Did we do the 5,000 ticket give away for the wrong game???

Catalans winger injured. He could hardly stand. So we attack the other wing . RP must have had his head in his hands. Pryce could have walked in for a try.

I thought this was the dumbest play I have seen for years, after that we deserved to lose, were we doing them a favour?

Could not agree more. Vaccari couldn't walk let alone run, bizarre that Catalans left him on for so long. Unforgivable that we spent all the time he was injured deliberately attacking the other wing!