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Dog you have managed a few posts without swearing well done keep it up

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: northernbloke "Dog you have managed a few posts without swearing well done keep it up'"

###2%%%###^^^^&&&&&^^%%%##@@@@ you!

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Quote: Call Me God "5K or so Canadians have bought into the visits from obscure northern towns..explain how more people attended in Toronto v York than will bother watching London v Wire?
You are David Hughes and I claim my fiver.......the 'what's the point" argument has been the clubs o to for a dozen years and guess what.....it aint working!'"

As a marketing guru, I don't know whether you saw the press conference launching the Wolfpack. What struck me was when Eric Perez was talking about the teams they would be facing - London, Oxford, Gloucester. Not one northern team was mentioned. Maybe northern teams are hindering the worldwide growth of RL.
I shall now be offline for several days!!

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That was intentional by Eric. He and the RFL discussed how to work the early fixtures. It was no fluke they got Skolars first away and Oxford first at home.

Eric wanted to get fixtures against the known names in early. People in Canada are more likely to have heard of Oxford than, say, Hunslet and will have no idea that Hunslet are a traditional team, Oxford newbies. He felt it would be easiest to market geographic names not the fact that Hunslet used to be top notch.

I'd expect the same to happen if New York, or whoever, enter. It wasn't a north / south thing though. York were one of the teams he put forward as a candidate for the key early games.

Quite right too, the RFL did a lot of damage to Quin's RL by putting them up against Saints first home game.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



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Quite right too, the RFL did a lot of damage to Quin's RL by putting them up against Saints first home game.'"

The RFL did the damage when they told IL he had to sell.....and sell to a reluctant buyer at that! If Perez wants to run a NY team, do you imagine he'll be told to bin any interest he has in Toronto?

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Both decisions were badly damaging.

The 60-0 basically knackered up attempts to convert serious numbers of Quins RU fans. That was one of the main lines of thinking behind the rebranding down the pan inside a an hour. Howl many RU fans left at half time and were never seen again? The decision to bar Ian from involvement then put the boot in on our chances of recovering from the first blow.

BTW David Argyle is reported to be involved in the New York consortium as well as backing Toronto, your question probably isn't hypothetical.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



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BTW David Argyle is reported to be involved in the New York consortium as well as backing Toronto, your question probably isn't hypothetical.'"

No....but is pertinent!
If they let him own his own division........and that's what he's up to, then they aren't fit for purpose......

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Thing with the Canadian enterprise is they are in the whole brand new to the sport, so know very little or nothing about any of the teams that they were going to face. So the way it was sold was well done. That's different from the audience we or any U.K, based team are trying to attract, even those that have never even considered RL as a sport will probably be aware of Wigan Saints and funnily enough Hull KR. Tell em about Hemel, skolars Oxford and they are gob smacked! Attracting those new "virgin" supporters needs the attraction of the bigger names.
In Toronto ask the majority they have no clue the difference between keighley cougars and Leeds rhinos apart from the name

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Just renewed my 2 Bronze Season tickets, £99 each with a New 2018 Polo shirt thrown in for each(If you book before 5pm today)

Cant complain at that.

Im sure there will be lots to complain about come Feb!!

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Awww WQ be positive
New year new challenge

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Quote: wire-quin "Just renewed my 2 Bronze Season tickets, £99 each with a New 2018 Polo shirt thrown in for each(If you book before 5pm today)

Cant complain at that.

Im sure there will be lots to complain about come Feb!!'"


I'll complain now - no mention of a bloody polo shirt when I renewed last week!

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Quote: Halfdan of t'wide embrace "That was intentional by Eric. He and the RFL discussed how to work the early fixtures. It was no fluke they got Skolars first away and Oxford first at home.

Eric wanted to get fixtures against the known names in early. People in Canada are more likely to have heard of Oxford than, say, Hunslet and will have no idea that Hunslet are a traditional team, Oxford newbies. He felt it would be easiest to market geographic names not the fact that Hunslet used to be top notch.

I'd expect the same to happen if New York, or whoever, enter. It wasn't a north / south thing though. York were one of the teams he put forward as a candidate for the key early games.

Quite right too, the RFL did a lot of damage to Quin's RL by putting them up against Saints first home game.'"



And yet by having Saints as the first home game we got a gate of over 8k. Can't imagine we'd have got anything like those numbers with,I dunno Wakey or Hudds.
20/20 hindsight is a marvellous thing

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Why did the rfl do damage to Quins rl by giving us saints? Who should they have given us? The only people that did damage to quins rl in that game were the players of quins rl
Quins rl were not a new venture they were a re brand that's all.

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And a couple of days after the renewal date two key players are announced as leaving. Suppose that marketing for you.

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Quote: "Good afternoon,

With the London Broncos 2017 season now complete it’s time to turn our full attention to the 2018 season – it’ll be here in no time!

The Early Bird deadline has already passed (Friday 22nd September) however I’m happy to confirm that I’ve extended the deadline just for you until Friday 29th September at 5pm. Early Bird applies to Gold and Silver season ticket holders as the price will increase after 5pm tomorrow! There is still a benefit for Bronze season ticket holders – renew before tomorrow and receive a 2018 Limited Edition Errea Polo.

To see what benefits are included this year please click here.

You can renew your season ticket online via the Club Shop or call the ticket office (Monday-Friday 9am-5pm) on 0208 991 6693.'"


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