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Quote: jaybs "regards the Broncos name, why does everyone keep saying it is an American name, we got it from then from the owners who were from Brisbane Broncos.'"


Because 'Bronco' is term for a wild stallion in New Mexico/California.
Your statement also discourages the idea of 'Broncos' being our own identity too.

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Quote: Prince of Denmark "I'm not at all excited or enthused by the prospect of another name change. In fact I feel pretty disillusioned by it as it feels like we're going around in circles and can't be bothered to make anything work properly if it's ever going to work at all, especially if it means reverting to the failed and annoyingly American sounding "London Broncos". I won't stop going to matches altogether, but I certainly won't renew my season ticket until I've seen some evidence that it's going to make a positive difference.

Back in 2005 I felt we should have become "London Harlequins", but at least being Harlequins and playing at The Stoop makes it feel more like playing at a ground of our own. Playing there under any other name will just make it feel like we're squatters again, playing in a ground with someone else's branding and colours. I can't think of another stadium as well suited for our purposes, unless it's a completely new or substantially redeveloped one, which looks like pie in the sky at this stage.'"


Please don't talk sense on here - you'll upset the others icon_wink.gif

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Has the world gone mad?

A sporting club that has changed names 3 times before, to no discernable advantage, and locations god knows how many times, with the latter certainly having had a massive negative impact over the 30 year history. So the ideas to move forwards from the current sticky spot are....?

...er, let's change our name again, and maybe move location!

Jeez, you couldn't make it up icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Hull Kingston Bronco "Has the world gone mad?

A sporting club that has changed names 3 times before, to no discernable advantage, and locations god knows how many times, with the latter certainly having had a massive negative impact over the 30 year history. So the ideas to move forwards from the current sticky spot are....?

...er, let's change our name again, and maybe move location!

Jeez, you couldn't make it up
Well quite.

No wonder we are the laughing stock of RL

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Quote: Hull Kingston Bronco "Has the world gone mad?

A sporting club that has changed names 3 times before, to no discernable advantage, and locations god knows how many times, with the latter certainly having had a massive negative impact over the 30 year history. So the ideas to move forwards from the current sticky spot are....?

...er, let's change our name again, and maybe move location!

Jeez, you couldn't make it up
You will be disgusted to hear that we share exactly the same opinion on this matter...

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Quote: Hull Kingston Bronco "Has the world gone mad?

A sporting club that has changed names 3 times before, to no discernable advantage, and locations god knows how many times, with the latter certainly having had a massive negative impact over the 30 year history. So the ideas to move forwards from the current sticky spot are....?

...er, let's change our name again, and maybe move location!

Jeez, you couldn't make it up
Another who wants to Bury his Head in the Sand! plenty of other clubs in the North have done things which are a joke, but life goes on.

You solution seems to be? do nothing icon_lol.gif

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Quote: The Penguin "Please don't talk sense on here - you'll upset the others
Do you mean don't upset The Fans! who back the club instead of whining all the time! icon_rolleyes.gif

What are the rules do it as we want or not at all!

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Quote: Pinkerton " Your statement also discourages the idea of 'Broncos' being our own identity too.'"


No! I always liked the name Broncos and the playing strip, but I though the change was for the best when we joined up with Harlequins RU, but it has Not! and I know now it Never will be, so return to the name or London Ravens!

Famous brands often change their names and for a few minutes you will get the few who will whine! but then it is soon forgotten and The Majority! accept change, those in the North that feel we are a joke and some here give them plenty to feed off, League Express should have a field day next week will Never like us as they are far too Parochial and small minded.

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Quote: jaybs "Do you mean don't upset The Fans! who back the club instead of whining all the time! '"

For crying out loud! It's not about the 2,000 fans who regularly follow the club already, it's about getting thousands more on board. (And you've done your share of "whining" on here about other people's suggestions you don't like.)

At the recent HKA game I was poised to note down the team line ups when, just as our team was being announced, the PA was drowned out by half a dozen or so people a few rows behind me discordantly chanting "Broncos, Broncos". Very helpful - Not! So everyone else in the vicinity had to wait until the match got underway and work out the teams for themsleves. Assuming of course they were regulars; in the remote event that a few newcomers unfamiliar with our players were present they wouldn't have stood a chance. Great first time "matchday experience"! Even though we lost 0-34 a fair minority of people around me almost seemed to be creaming their underwear over the possiblity of travelling back in time to once more become London Broncos. I found this both extraordinary and depressing. A masterclass in flatcappery that would put any former mining or mill town club to shame.

There are people on here who seem to want to preserve "London RL in Superleague" as some sort of minority sport for a fanatical elite. Those of us who express an interest in other sports are ridiculed, especially if they sometimes miss a home game because they're watching football, cricket, speedway etc. (As if Leeds or Wigan is packed out every week with ever-presents who never miss a game come what may - they just have more of them, and more fairweather fans too.) I often feel some of us would rather revert to being an underdog club punching above its weight and scraping into the play-offs once every three or four years, and would rather supporters less fanatical than themselves stayed away altogether - except there's no sustainable future in that, and instead of punching above our weight we now find ourselves as an underdog club in the sort of position you can reasonably expect an underdog to be when everyone else has bigger crowds and greater resources.

We're in the biggest conurbation in the country, we're potentially the biggest and best club in rugby league, but in order to achieve that we need to bring loads of new supporters on board, who, for at least a few years, will have little understanding of and appreciation of the finer points of the sport and its history and traditions. So what? It's a bit like county cricket clubs launching Twenty20 a decade ago and filling their grounds with people who, until recently, never seriously considered watching the sport live, except that we're the only club in the league trying to do that.

To be perfectly honest I don't really care what the club is called, where it plays within Greater London, or what colours the shirts are as long as it moves forward. But I can't see us in a situation in 5-10 years time where we're playing in front of 10,000+ every week purely because we've reverted to being London Broncos, playing in a nondescript red shirt, squatting at a crappy lower division Football League ground. Any progress made could still have been made under the Harlequins name at The Stoop.

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If supporters come to the ground and don't recognize the players and can't read their names then they need to just buy a programme or not worry about it.

13 home games in 12 months is not exactly a massive commitment either.

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Quote: Prince of Denmark "For crying out loud! It's not about the 2,000 fans who regularly follow the club already, it's about getting thousands more on board. (And you've done your share of "whining" on here about other people's suggestions you don't like.)

There are people on here who seem to want to preserve "London RL in Superleague" as some sort of minority sport for a fanatical elite.

We're in the biggest conurbation in the country, we're potentially the biggest and best club in rugby league, but in order to achieve that we need to bring loads of new supporters on board, who, for at least a few years, will have little understanding of and appreciation of the finer points of the sport and its history and traditions. So what? It's a bit like county cricket clubs launching Twenty20 a decade ago and filling their grounds with people who, until recently, never seriously considered watching the sport live, except that we're the only club in the league trying to do that.

To be perfectly honest I don't really care what the club is called, where it plays within Greater London, or what colours the shirts are as long as it moves forward. But I can't see us in a situation in 5-10 years time where we're playing in front of 10,000+ every week purely because we've reverted to being London Broncos, playing in a nondescript red shirt, squatting at a crappy lower division Football League ground. Any progress made could still have been made under the Harlequins name at The Stoop.'"


I supported the change to Harlequins RL and the move back to The Stoop! it is your opinion that we can build on the failure this association has been, well now I know accept and it seems the club do, we got it wrong! that is not whining! it is just a different opinion, I don't attack you or anyone else for have a different opinion. Who mentioned moving to a lower division football league ground just for the sake of it, any move has to be completely right and not a knee jerk decision, but in my personal opinion we have to lose the Harlequins ident completely, there is no other option, I will take London and any other moniker except Harlequins or Quins! the comment about the non descript red shirt?? I am not really bothered what colours we play in, except Not Harlequins colours

Yes people here over 25 years have wanted Our Club to be Elite, I have seen so many supporters driven away who were loyal but they were attacked and just got sick of it, they will Never do it to me. If we let these people win then it is the end of our club in London, it is pointless going into the championship Skolars and their 300 fans is no advertisement, though some northern legend name clubs get little more attending.

We have been asked to give our opinions I am sure most of us have now done so, the final decision must be with David Hughes and I will accept whatever he with those around him decide, no silly threats to throw away my ball and not support the club! we have come through some rough times and we can do it again.

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I see the News of the World maybe changing its name to the Sun on Sunday!
What's in a name change? It doesn't change anything...............

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London storm,totally new identity.And move to north london near the M1 easier access for us northerners and will boost your crowds

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leyton orients ground - easier root home for all northerners M11,,m25,m1,easier than going to the stoop

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heres my 2d worth, if it's worth that much.......................

1. We stay Harlequins RL.

2. We stay at The Stoop.

3. New regime pursue policy of gaining a 50/50 ownership of the Stoop with HFC. From all accounts they could do with the money.

4. Engage with the 2m or so people who live in the surrounding areas as prospective new customers.

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