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Quote: leedsleedsleeds "
1. Was this during pe lessons or after school?
2. Of those 40,000 did any ever play for the broncos or play in super league?'"

3. I wonder how many played for rugby league clubs out of school as a hobby?'"
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1. Mixture of both, but given your badly hidden agenda, I am sure you don't care either way. The fact that you'll ignore is that 40,000 kids were exposed to the game.
2. Not sure about the use of drugs in Leeds with regards to the development of youth, but given the Harlequins RL work started in 2006, expecting a SL player to pop out at the far end inside 6 years is asking a bit much. We have had a couple of kids come through the pathway offered by having a team in SL down here.....one'sust signed a contact extension at St Helens whilst the other is on the Books at Wigan and has scored 4 tries for his country at senior level in a COMPETATIVE game. I seem to remember it was hard-on central when little Sammy T scored 4 against a poor France in a mid season friendly.....but I am sure your agenda doesn't allow for such stats.
3. I don't, but given that there are approximately 800% MORE RL Teams in the Region compared to pre-SL and a London SL team, I am sure one or 2 picked it up.

Now, before you scuttle off to think of some witty riposte to the facts above, here's another couple of tit-bits for you to digest.

1. Your Coach (the guy that's won a couple of SL's for you) reckons that London offers a massive future to RL if only the game in general would embrace and nurture it. Short termists, like yourself, expect too much too soon and are happy to point to terrible crowds as "proof it's not working" when in fact, up until it was butchered at the end of last year, it was working.
2. If further proof that it was working were needed, can I suggest you google "Howard of Effingham School win at Wembley"......I mean to say, if a Surrey School can win a national title that is that important it is played as a warm up to the 2nd biggest game in the domestic season, surely the growth of the game should be encouraged down in the south rather than binned so another pit village team can stumble along with 5k crowds and eventually go tits up?

Thanks for popping in c020.gif

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Quote: RLLDN "But there is no point in dwelling on mistakes and the past.'"

Whilst the architects of the downfall of the club I support are still in place, I will "dwell" all I like thank you very much. The fact that people who were not only good at their jobs but were also passionate about what they were doing were cast aside to make way for the "husk" of an entity that is left is bad enough, but the added bitterness this attracts comes from the w4nker who caused the problem not only continuing to steal a wage, but also managing to unload any semblance of responsibility, past, present or future onto someone else.

As for the mistakes that have been made in the past.

You saying that the club have learnt from them doesn't actually mean that the club have actually learnt from them. The same as 2 players buying sandwiches isn't community work, or that posting on facebook isn't cutting edge marketing.

I'll reserve judgement on this brave new dawn off the pitch until we see how many fans they can attract to the first few games......as for on the pitch, I think that the hammering by Widnes may well turn out to be one of the teams "highlights" this year....I can see us shipping 100 points in a game and I pray to god that if it happens, it happens away from home!

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Gutters, you are forgetting that Tony Rea attracted the attention of 5 people while wearing his track suit at a local eaterie. That must mean that everything is ok, doesn't it?

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Quote: Euclid "Gutters, you are forgetting that Tony Rea attracted the attention of 5 people while wearing his track suit at a local eaterie. That must mean that everything is ok, doesn't it?'"


I know, I said it was the tiniest inkling of players getting out there, but you cling on to that tiny bit and twist it, to make it sound like everything is ok. For LOVES sake, GET BEHIND YOUR TEAM AND STOP SNIPING.

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Quote: RLLDN "I know, I said it was the tiniest inkling of players getting out there, but you cling on to that tiny bit and twist it, to make it sound like everything is ok. For LOVES sake, GET BEHIND YOUR TEAM AND STOP SNIPING.'"

That presupposes that they are still his team!

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I think after 30 odd years watching, playing and coaching in the capital I am entitled to snipe. London Broncos is in real danger of not being my team any more.
Do you get your happy pills on the nhs or from a dodgy man in a dark alley? Either way I wouldn't mind giving them a go if I could become as delusional as you.
Good luck on Saturday, I will be delighted to eat my words when Salford are beaten by London.

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See, I knew you still love the club. There is a fine line between love and hate. It seems like we have both extremes on this board. You're no more qualified than a johnny come lately regards to sniping. Everyone has a right to express their feelings and if you feel bitter and angered, then so be it.

I on the other hand am the opposite. It's like when we play Rugby. There is always one lad on the team who moans about a dropped pass/missed pass which permeates amongst the whole team. Yet we tend to shut him up and tell him to think about the positive parts of the game and WORK on the negatives in practice. A positive outlook is always better, so it means win, lose or draw we will always learn

.....Granted it has been a 30 year project rer:RL in London...but who is to say this may be the one.....The only way to find out is to get behind it than shoot it down in flames...and even if there are a whooping, bad results, that is when the team need our support. We CAN do this. See you at The Hive Euclid one day for a beer pal.

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Can't see us ever agreeing, but that should not stop us enjoying a beer together. Maybe at Chiswick celebrating a SWL Chargers victory?

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Quote: gutterfax "Whilst the architects of the downfall of the club I support are still in place, I will "dwell" all I like thank you very much. The fact that people who were not only good at their jobs but were also passionate about what they were doing were cast aside to make way for the "husk" of an entity that is left is bad enough, but the added bitterness this attracts comes from the w4nker who caused the problem not only continuing to steal a wage, but also managing to unload any semblance of responsibility, past, present or future onto someone else.

As for the mistakes that have been made in the past.

You saying that the club have learnt from them doesn't actually mean that the club have actually learnt from them. The same as 2 players buying sandwiches isn't community work, or that posting on facebook isn't cutting edge marketing.

I'll reserve judgement on this brave new dawn off the pitch until we see how many fans they can attract to the first few games......as for on the pitch, I think that the hammering by Widnes may well turn out to be one of the teams "highlights" this year....I can see us shipping 100 points in a game and I pray to god that if it happens, it happens away from home!'"


That's fine, dwell all you want. Whilst at the same hand there will be people not willing to agree with the negativity and misery.

If you want to be productive, then set up a petition if you want the administration out. Right now, we are not privvy to stats from the club so will back the club, as that is the only thing we can control at the moment.

Obviously there is bitterness but we cannot expect to progress further it we don't let go of the negative and cling on to the positives of the now and future.

Ofcourse the code to breaking the RL market in London is not done from a sandwich outing or a facebook post, but yknow what, considering we had zero contact or any knowledge of players, we are gonig in the right direction. But keep using the keywords of 'sandwich buying' and 'facebook postings' to give it some ridiculing gravitas on a message board.

Good to hear your good wishes about the club to get some fans in. You could be so much part of the club if you let go of the bitterness and use your nous for positive. Hopefully one day you'll have a change of heart and watch a game at The Hive.

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Quote: Euclid "Can't see us ever agreeing, but that should not stop us enjoying a beer together. Maybe at Chiswick celebrating a SWL Chargers victory?'"


Lol, you never know, here's hoping you have a change of heart and pop down to The Hive for one game at least eh. Yeh, beer sounds good there - or even at the Skolars or at the Stags.

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Every time you mention the fact that we had no players, didn't know we were going to exist or that we weren't told anything I am going to ask the same questions!
Who was to blame for that situation and how can we embrace this brave new dawn whilst this person is still at the club?

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I know GF, I see where you're coming from. Am trying not to be so blinkered and trying to see the viewpoint from other people's point of view. However, the ownership is something we can't control. Have seen many campaigns from football clubs asking for such and such 'chairman out', eg;Man Utd, Southampton, Newcastle....but ultimately the Supporters get behind the team otherwise it kind of is cutting the nose to spite the face.

If things go well, and IF they do, who is to say a Dr.Koukash type investor will see the potential in London and then we start buying the Billy Slaters, Jarryd Haynes, Shauny Johnson's of the world (fat chance, ha, but you never know - money talks).

Tis a great location. With very good transport links. If a branch of Toshiba saw something they liked in a conference club what about investors looking into an SL/Championship team.

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How much is it on the day? And where will we be situated? We're selling tickets for £23 for adults at the club shop!!! Yet you can buy them for £17 on the London website, just seems strange that we've been sent a batch of expensive tickets, which i can only presume are for decent seats at that price.

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£17 is for the terracing North or South.£23 is for the stands I believe West or East I think.I believe the majority will be in the West Stand but not too sure. Anyone know?

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Quote: RLLDN "I know GF, I see where you're coming from. Am trying not to be so blinkered and trying to see the viewpoint from other people's point of view. However, the ownership is something we can't control. Have seen many campaigns from football clubs asking for such and such 'chairman out', eg;Man Utd, Southampton, Newcastle....but ultimately the Supporters get behind the team otherwise it kind of is cutting the nose to spite the face.

If things go well, and IF they do, who is to say a Dr.Koukash type investor will see the potential in London and then we start buying the Billy Slaters, Jarryd Haynes, Shauny Johnson's of the world (fat chance, ha, but you never know - money talks).

Tis a great location. With very good transport links. If a branch of Toshiba saw something they liked in a conference club what about investors looking into an SL/Championship team.'"

We agree to differ. It's in a suburban desert 15 mins walk from a tube station.

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