Ill let gutterfax explain...

You make it sound so simple.

I agree with the points above but not the subsequent ones regarding the Stoop.

I think exisitng fans will bring friends when they think they will enjoy it, not becuase they will get a reward.

The problem recently has been I wouldn't really want anyone but a hardcore fan to experience our performances.

Owning a ground can just as easily be a millstone around the clubs neck. Just look at the number of sports teams who have experienced serious financial problems within a few years of moving to new stadia

The maintenance costs involved with owning your own stadium can be quite high. Thats why you need a 'partner' in to share the costs if possible such as ourselves at the stoop. Also why clubs are keen to hold rock concerts etc.
If Sky paid us a better wedge we could cover the cost from them.

In his case it was a combination of things. Maybe more difficult access by public transport (I think he lives in St Albans) was one of them but his other weekend pursuit, rocketry, was a growing conflict, I think his enthusiasm for the club was anyway waning, and other stuff. He just moved on really.

That's exactly my feelings on it too

£15,000 for the oyster wallets - 'king hell they must have had millions printed same as £10k for a video - fact or fiction!

My error.....£5k on 15,000 wallets....and I believe the hire of a basic crew to film a video for the day and then edt and produce is very close to £10k.

Regardless, 3 Premium ST's at a cost of £750 and an away day for 2 at £500 is a damn sight cheaper and I would say far more effective than giving a Rodney or Rupert in East London a new wallet for his buttlers travel card

30p for a travel wallet is not a bad cost....but it depends on what you are marketing and to whom.....London Broncos RLC to school kids in the borough would be a good use of them for example...... each one with a family ticket for a tenner inside

I doubt that video cost anything like £10k to produce.

I knew I was in the wrong job before but £10k is daylight robbery.

I've been a beneficiary of some of the vouchers before & it has encouraged me to come to games more often than I would have otherwise. But i dont come to all games. I'm already an RL fan, just found the atmosphere was lacking at the Stoop with poor crowds & poor games.

I've also tried to encourage other people along, but never managed to get them to come more than once. When I first moved to London I got a group of about 10 to come to a game from work. It was a good game, but none came back again (time it takes up to get to the ground so it effectively takes up nearly all day, the number of other things they have to do)

To be fair that video could have been made in house, with a broadcast quality vid and a simple editing package. Looking at it iDVD would have done the job never mind Adobe Premiere. Whether it was or not, I wouldn't know.

At times like this, I wish Gutterfax wouldn't brandish figures like £10,000 around without actually knowing. What happens is people get this £10,000 figure in their heads and think how it could have been better spent elsewhere, even though we don't know if it actually cost that or not.

You see, despite him having the greatest of intentions, (of which I do agree with most) this makes it look like the club has wasted money, when we don't know the facts. We don't know who or how it was put together. It paints the club in a negative light.

We should all be like that poster whose name escapes me and post like money isn't an object to the club. Simple things such as billboards and an advertising campaign on the local ITV network please. Let's not let pesky figures be mentoned.