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| Can only echo what everyone else has said deeply disappointing. in summary and this should please Jim Pooley/Gutterfax/any other aliases in use:
1. we need a half back/leader who can lead, ours currently add nothing - they may be good in the long term but are not ready
2. Why when you have a small pack keep playing one man run down the middle rugby? (the cricket analogy was spot on)
3. re points 1&2 we need to big grizzled props and one decwent half back
4. Stop laying on in the tackle to the point you give away penalty after penalty, and learn to catch the ball - surely a pre-requiste for a professional rugby player
5. develop a kicking game - we rarely get repeat sets, Dewsbury got at least 3
So overall a combination of lack of players/guile, appalling completion rate, and rotten tactics. Positives....................... we tackled reasonably well at times.............
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16679.jpg Well f**k my hat, I didn't know that!
Come all without, come all within, we're London Broncos not the H********s!:16679.jpg |
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| Quote: brian2 "Can only echo what everyone else has said deeply disappointing. in summary and this should please Jim Pooley/Gutterfax/any other aliases in use
Spot on! If I were David Hughes I would appoint you Hendo's mentor - you seem to know more than the present incumbent!
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| Spot on! If I were David Hughes I would appoint you Hendo's mentor - you seem to know more than the present incumbent!
Not rocket science, suspect most LB regulars would come up with the same analysis. The worrying/sad point is the props/completion rate (maybe more) has been around for the past three years!
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73709_1429825842.png [b:3lwchg41][size=100:3lwchg41]February 9th 2008. Harlequins Rugby League v Wigan Warriors; Attendance [color=#FF0000:3lwchg41]8,041[/color:3lwchg41]
Entire 2015 Season over 11 games: Total Attendance[color=#FF0000:3lwchg41] 8,050[/color:3lwchg41].
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| Quote: kit80 "Which team is that exactly?'"
London Broncos. Not sure why you felt the need to ask that?
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| Quote: Jim Pooley "Quote: Jim Pooley "Which team is that exactly?'"
London Broncos. Not sure why you felt the need to ask that?'"
Probably because of your incessantly negative posts about anything and everything to do with London Broncos
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73709_1429825842.png [b:3lwchg41][size=100:3lwchg41]February 9th 2008. Harlequins Rugby League v Wigan Warriors; Attendance [color=#FF0000:3lwchg41]8,041[/color:3lwchg41]
Entire 2015 Season over 11 games: Total Attendance[color=#FF0000:3lwchg41] 8,050[/color:3lwchg41].
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| Quote: kit80 "Which team is that exactly?'"
London Broncos. Not sure why you felt the need to ask that?
Quote: kit80 "Probably because of your incessantly negative posts about anything and everything to do with London Broncos'"
sorry. I didn't realise that positive posting was a requirement on this forum!
London Broncos, 6 seasons ago as the "misunderstood" harlequins RL had 2,900 more fans paying 50k a game into the coffers of the club and we had the visits of Wigan, Saints and Leeds to look forward to. Forgive me for not getting moist at the thought of redemption v another bunch of part timers after another embarrassing loss to a bunch of part timers.
If you and the other apologists on here can't see that David Hughes is the problem, then god help the club.......without central funding RL in London is dead.
If you need proof of this, look at what has happened to the skolars since we stopped drip feeding them.........
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| Jp from what I see no positive posting is not a requirement of the forum as you well prove, however constant living in the past is pointless we are where we are that's in the doldrums, constant comments about people stealing a wage at the club achieve what? Actually is there anyone at the club you do like. As for Mr Hughes and central funding, without Mr Hughes at the moment there is no London broncos, there is no central funding the rfl would let us die.
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| Quote: mickyb1234 "...As for Mr Hughes and central funding, without Mr Hughes at the moment there is no London broncos, there is no central funding the rfl would let us die.'"
And ain't that the truth. We all know David Hughes is a poor man manager and decision maker, but he's all we've got right now. The RFL have shown their hand, they are not interested in anywhere outside the heartlands.
It's just a shame that Mr Hughes largesse means a long slow decline rather than an instant implosion (if he'd walked away).
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73709_1429825842.png [b:3lwchg41][size=100:3lwchg41]February 9th 2008. Harlequins Rugby League v Wigan Warriors; Attendance [color=#FF0000:3lwchg41]8,041[/color:3lwchg41]
Entire 2015 Season over 11 games: Total Attendance[color=#FF0000:3lwchg41] 8,050[/color:3lwchg41].
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| Quote: mickyb1234 "Jp from what I see no positive posting is not a requirement of the forum as you well prove, however constant living in the past is pointless we are where we are that's in the doldrums, constant comments about people stealing a wage at the club achieve what? Actually is there anyone at the club you do like. As for Mr Hughes and central funding, without Mr Hughes at the moment there is no London broncos, there is no central funding the rfl would let us die.'"
I am not negative just for the sake of it. I want the club to succeed but under its current ownership model, that will not happen.
As for the clubs future without Hughes, better we get used to existing without him than kidding ourselves we are ever getting back into SL.
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| Quote: Jim Pooley "I am not negative just for the sake of it. I want the club to succeed but under its current ownership model, that will not happen.
As for the clubs future without Hughes, better we get used to existing without him than kidding ourselves we are ever getting back into SL.'"
Are you saying Broncos wont succeed with or without Hughes and that fans should accept a more successful team at a lower level.
Assuming Hughes pulled the plug and cancelled all of Broncos debts what could be reasonably expected?
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73709_1429825842.png [b:3lwchg41][size=100:3lwchg41]February 9th 2008. Harlequins Rugby League v Wigan Warriors; Attendance [color=#FF0000:3lwchg41]8,041[/color:3lwchg41]
Entire 2015 Season over 11 games: Total Attendance[color=#FF0000:3lwchg41] 8,050[/color:3lwchg41].
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| Quote: meliferra "Are you saying Broncos wont succeed with or without Hughes and that fans should accept a more successful team at a lower level.
Assuming Hughes pulled the plug and cancelled all of Broncos debts what could be reasonably expected?'"
Whilst we were in SL, hughes ability to make multiple errors in judgement cost us fans and ultimately our top flight status.......do you honestly think it'll be any different in the lower tiers?
Look at where we are now...not looking backwards, but forwards. This is not about his errors, but the continuation of errors.....
We are one of 3 Full time squads in a division of 12 and have played nearly half our regular season games this year. We currently sit 7th on the Table, behind the other 2 pro teams who are 4 and 5 wins ahead of us and 3 wins behind 3rd. Our aspiration now will be to make 4th, which will enable us to lose to Bradford and Leigh again, as well as 4 SL sides, with our only glimmer of hope the game v Sheffield. FANTASTIC.
In the process of getting to this "target" we have currently been watched by about 3,300 people who will have delivered about 13k in revenue per game to our "host", down 40% from 25k last year. Our owner has "pledged" to keep us going for the immediate future, but he did that in 2012 before crippling the club in 2013. Our coach is not a seasoned pro. He has enthusiasm, but I am sure Grima and Powell did too......enthusiasm wins nothing other than a salary from Hughes it would seem. Grima, the man who was supposed to lead us to the promised land is gone, as are his "mates" and we are adrift with 13 regular season games to go and not much going for us in respect to 2016 either unless Leigh/Bradford go up.
We are still negotiating 2016 with the "host"and are not an attractive proposition to the grizzled northern championship type players we need to get out of this division, whilst our own kids are neither tough or hard enough at this stage.
....the alternative? He walks and the club either sinks or swims. I suspect survival would be in the next division down which is probably where we need to be to start again. Hughes propping us up isn't good for the game or the club....but I am sure it makes him feel better!
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| You probably lost most folk on the 3rd or 4th line there mate, turned into a drone.
We know, doubt any of us on here would actually argue any different. Question is so what? What are you able or going to do about it, apart from cheer the team on. Fact is that's all we as fans have the ability to do.
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| Micky Supporters of many clubs; whether that be Rochdale Hornets or AFC Wimbledon; thankfully don't accept your analysis of what we as fans can do. I'm confident we could build a successful and sustainable club using the drive and expertise of Broncos supporters, even if this means going backwards before going forward as you hint at. The best chance for success on such a project would be to try and negotiate a smooth transition, rather than having to rebuild after collapse.
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| Nkom,
That may be so but it then raises the question 2013 when the club was down to a total of 6 personal and probably a couple of days away from being declared a non entity, the fans that were going to step in and take over were not there.
Simple fact fans trying to get rid of the club's banker would only succeed in making the club non existent unless they can find some other provider of funds.
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| The fans were there, as witnessed by me canvassing people outside the Stoop at the Huddersfield game at that time! If push came to shove at that time we could have resurrected the Club although season 2014 might have been at a push! You're right to point out how difficult it would be, which is why I say a smooth transition has to be the best way for ANY new regime, whether supporter led or not.
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