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| Quote: Bostwick "As Rob says South East London/ North Kent is an area that would be ideal for Broncos to move in to.
David Hughes obviously considered this by playing those on the road games at Gillingham. With some success off the pitch if not on.
Ebbsfleet Utds ground is currently being redeveloped and would suit us perfectly. close to HS1 railway station and A2 for access.
Central Park Sittingbourne, a bit further out, but a fairly modern stadium, currently used for greyhound racing and speedway.
This we could make our own with. No other sports teams for competition. If the right offer was made, I am sure it could be purchased at a reasonable cost, at the moment it does not seem to thrive.
Just needs some vision and investment. the opportunity is there, however this is the Broncos.'"
Why move again from one side of London to the other again we would loose all of the hard work put in developing rugby league in the schools around Ealing, not to say any new supporters we have picked up.
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| Don't think the thread was suggestion the broncos move!
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| Quote: "As Rob says South East London/ North Kent is an area that would be ideal for Broncos to move in to.
David Hughes obviously considered this by playing those on the road games at Gillingham. With some success off the pitch if not on.'"
So what does this mean if it does not suggest another move. Another move would probably be the final nail in the Broncos coffin
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| There are huge areas of London which remain untapped and I think RL has had a bit of an obsession with West London and parts of Surrey because that's where there's a large union fanbas
This was the opening line of the first thread, then asking if Broncos or the rfl had a strategy to tap the area. I read that as general strategy, don't think it was suggesting a m9ve put that way it was bosty who mentioned broncos moving.
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| The simple fact is that if the club has any ambition it is going to have to relocate. Ealing Trailfinders suits our current needs. However for Super League it is a non starter.
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| Now that's the truth, but hey no one else would have us
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| Quote: "][The simple fact is that if the club has any ambition it is going to have to relocate. Ealing Trailfinders suits our current needs. However for Super League it is a non starter./quote]its interesting that trailfinders have said even if they win there play-ff they will not seek promotion, partly:mainly because the ground is not up to standard.
Whilst another move would be difficult to stomach I think everyone would go for it if we were moving to our own ground? East London wouldn't be my favourite but again I would live with it.
Would David Hughes have the money? Would he invest? Are there people out there out who would put money in? Are the grounds up for sale? How much?...............
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| The one thing that Gus (are we allowed to speak his name?) suggested that made some sense to me was the idea that the Broncos had a central home and then took some games on the road, rather like a county cricket club. Ealing for 10 home games with 2 or 3 on the road, based close to London League clubs who could help make the day into a festival of rugby.
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| I always thought that when we took games on the road in The Stoop/Griffin Park/The Valley days, we went too far from home .We should have stayed closer to London and used the games to promote The Broncos. Gillingham being an example of when we did and we got 6 000 fans for the first game..
When you think, we went many times to Wales, went to Scotland and even France. Whilst these games may have promoted RL in general, did it do any good for the club.
Must admit I enjoyed attending them.
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| You have to be joking about taking games on the road, strewth look at the discussions we had about the "difficulties " of getting to Ealing on a Sunday. How on earth would we cope with a different ground 2 or 3 times a season?
Reality is, trail finders suits us at the moment, everything is one place and let's be honest without a massive investment we are probably playing at the level of competition suitable for us.
If we were too moved am sure it would generate lots of discussion of N E W or S london but go to east london and you will probably lose more fans than you gain and we have few enough.
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| Get the point of the opening post, there are quite a few active players down that neck of the woods, are they being given the support to develop, well that's a question. There are a bunch of blokes in london who have set up a business getting folk to play a form of rugby league and are extremely successful all over london so things can be done.
As to where the professional teams should or need to be is a very different question.
In my view Broncos are best placed in West London somewhere. Why, well look at the "potential" supporters catchment area of the club. let's call everything on the tube map London. So they should draw fans from london berks Hants wilts Surrey Sussex Essex Buckinghamshire Oxfordshire maybe east anglia Herts Kent and beds
Where we are fans from Kent and Essex are pretty hard done to
If we move to Kent or Essex we would lose most fans from berks Hants wilts bucks oxen beds
For away fans from Yorks east or west makes no difference lancs actually not really much difference either for guys from Surrey Sussex Herts it probably makes not a lot of difference.
We all know that to get back into super league means a move, but doing what we have always done with the moves has never helped. Leigh, Widnes both showed how it needs to be done, get a decent stadium and build slowly year on year to get to where you need to be.
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| We need to stay where we are.
We need to get promoted first.
If we do then how confident are we that we will stay up and would it be a one season wonder which would burn our bridges with trailfinders and be back to where we were looking for a ground should we not stay in SL.
Has any one any knowledge as to whether or not we could get a dispensation for RFL to stay at Ealing, other clubs dont have a problem as they mainly own the ground should they go up and then back down again the following season.
Seating could be rearranged and redesigned and I am sure you could get to the minimum level.
Trailfinders was developed massively during the close season who is to say they could not do the same again with seating plans. There are three side which could be further developed.
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| Min requirements are 5000 with 2000 seats. We would really struggle to get near that on the seats. In theory the capacity of 5000 would be ok, we just stand em all on that top pitch. That's why wakey are in trouble.
Not sure how you could develop 3 sides though. There is a very small space by the main stand that could have something put on it, then behind the sticks at one end.
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| Get promoted then move is the wrong way to drive for success in my opinion. If you do that then in sept you get promoted and then have in effect 2 months to find a suitable home, and we know how that has worked for us in the past.
When we think we are capable of building for a genuine push for SL status we do it properly. First find a home that is suitable for SL but more importantly the club, then try to get promoted, get the foundations first.
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| Stand opposite the main stand could take a lot more seating and incorporate the players and coaches area as was done at the stoop. Behind the goals could easily take another tier if reinvented. Behind the goals at the opposite end could again take a large number of seating in two or three tiers. Putting seating in there would also prevent those house behind from seeing the game free of charge and may increase numbers (joke)
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