I thought the point was fairly plain but to clarify Broncos aren't the only club to play in a near empty stadium in Twickenham.

Saracens may be able to attract a crowd but hanging on to them (for more than 40 minutes) is obviously proving something of a problem.

63,000 at the big house is 77% capacity...11,408 at the stoop is the same level of "near empty"/77% capacity you are keen to discuss.

Saracens averaged about 6k at Watford last year.....then they had the D-header and Wembley to get that official average up to over 17k......even without the know how to market their "event" games, they get double the attendances for run'o'th'mill games than the mighty London Broncos......

If your point in starting this thread was to poke fun at a Union team and their attendances then you failed. If it was to offer a valid comparrison with the Broncos at the stoop...you again failed. If this thread was your attempt to make a joke regarding near empty stadiums in twickenham, sad to say, you missed the mark on that point as well.....

....2,832 is the average attendance for London Broncos home games this year...let's all talk about how sarries are crap because they average 6k at home and only manage to attract 83,000 to one game a season

i went and what a great game the wasp v quins was....very exciting,though as a wasps supporter...very annoying!!!

You can at least console yourself with the fact that people weren't leaving in droves during proceedings.

I'd argue that leading a horse to water and not being able to make it drink is arguably an even more dismal achievement than not leading it to water in the first place.

Cue gutters responding with the attendance figures for the next pop concert masquerading as a Saracens game ...

2,800 fans x 13 x the 9.85 Ian Lenegan reckons is what a ticket sale is worth to the club ...let's round it up to 360k.

360k/83,000 is 4.33 a ticket........the cheapest ticket to the sarries game was a fiver, most people paid 30 notes.....so sarries attracted the horse to water, but couldn't get them back, but still generated more ticket revenue in one game than the London broncos can all season..... and let's not even discuss the level of Media coverage that one game got when compared to how out "media partner" treats us............

how sarries achievement is anything other than 10000000% better than anything the London Broncos have achieved or even attempted ....EVER is ing beyond me

There's a difference between turnover & profit though. Wembley costs 100 grand a pop & talking of pop I bet McFly don't come cheap either. Strip aside Sarries world class flim flam & they've got 2,500 season ticket holders. Their core businss is certainly not a million times bigger than Broncos.

Wembley costs 200k actually.

ah, the sound of the goalposts being moved....


Wembley costs 200k for their event.....the stoop costs 200k for 13 home games....regardless of you now backtracking, sarries made a profit from their event....which saw them attract 83,000 fans.

London Broncos only have about 30% of the ST holders that you say sarries have......London Broncos will average sub 3k gates sarries 17k+.....I know which one is doing better as a business....it's the one with the 8 million in sponsorship deals,not the one with the last minute building supply shop deal.....

I can't believe that we are actually even debating this. How can we deride fans for leaving at half time of the second match of the London Double Header? For starters Harlequins and Wasps fans were the vast majority of those who left at half time of the second match. Their teams were not involved in the second match, so I don't see how anyone can knock supporters for staying for half of a match that didn't involve their team!

Also why on earth is someone essentially knocking a crowd of 63,000 when we are scrambling to get 2,000?!

because I keep on biting

The reason people were streaming out half way through the Safacens v Reading Irish game was because it was the direst game ever seen.
Stop-start, slow, stodgy, unimaginative. People were willing it to end. The sort of game that the law changes in RU were supposed to make a thing of the past.
I was sat there in my obviously RL shirt and started chanting "This is sh*te, this is sh*te, this is sh*te" and all the union fans around me joined in! That's how bad it was.

On the other hand the Wycombe Wasps v Harlequins was as good a game of rugby as you'll see. Of either code.

On the subject of attendance, I'd advise caution in the conclusions you draw.
I was there in the pub looking at my watch trying to encourage people to leave so we'd make kick off, and the response was "It's the double header, it doesn't matter if you miss part of the first game". And these were Quins fans!
It felt very much like a social occasion with a bit of rugby thrown in. Fair play, it's a good marketing concept, but the double header is probably as relevant to the RU season as the Magic Weekend is to ours.

Suggesting that 63,000 means that each of those clubs has 15,000+ support is a bit of a stretch. Several people I spoke to openly admitted that was the only game they'd go to all season.

We all know how poorly run the Broncos are, but I don't think last Saturday adds to the discussion/debate on that.

why do we have this thread then?
lowest average for a LONDON union side last year.....? a damn site more than 2800

We've got just under 1,000 season ticket holders, so on that measure their business is 2.5 times bigger than Broncos.

Not bad when you consider there are soccer teams in London at least 30 times bigger than us.