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| Quote: Dave Lister "Is that a yes or a no?'"
Come on DL.....no bodyswerve.....arrange a pole for the posters, something along the lines of all things considered, how the team and BM are performing, perceived progress or lack of etc etc
1. Should BM walk?
2. Should Dave Lister walk?
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| Quote: Under the sticks "Come on DL.....no bodyswerve.....arrange a pole for the posters, something along the lines of all things considered, how the team and BM are performing, perceived progress or lack of etc etc
1. Should BM walk?
2. Should Dave Lister walk?'"
You can't do poles (sic) on here. Still swerving the initial question and your only reaction is a personal attack on me? I see. Typical BM apologist then who doesn't like the truth.
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| What on McDermott being given the push?
I think you have to take a number of factors into account such as-
Final position- vital
Injuries during the season
His standing in the club ie players and management
Future player development
Can he take the club further- strategy, ideas etc maybe through an interview with the board
The clubs owners aspirations- see the line above- do they dovetail
Club philosophy ie do we want a young English coach
His signings performances against what we let go- Mclinden etc
It's easy to have a go when you are down on your luck- No one was calling for his head when we put 60 past the Wire on what was a fantastic day
So in response to your question Im not in a position to answer.
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| Quote: wire-quin "What on McDermott being given the push?
I think you have to take a number of factors into account such as-
Final position- vital
Injuries during the season
His standing in the club ie players and management
Future player development
Can he take the club further- strategy, ideas etc maybe through an interview with the board
The clubs owners aspirations- see the line above- do they dovetail
Club philosophy ie do we want a young English coach
His signings performances against what we let go- Mclinden etc
It's easy to have a go when you are down on your luck- No one was calling for his head when we put 60 past the Wire on what was a fantastic day
So in response to your question Im not in a position to answer.
So you would be happy with a coach that hasn't led us to the playoffs in 3 seasons? I can understand your points but as you say league position is vital, for the future of the club if nothing else. A constantly failing side isn't going to get anywhere.
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| Could the mods do a poll on this please?
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| Quote: Dave Lister " Typical Forum Moderator apologist who doesn't like the truth.'" Edited
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| Quote: Under the sticks "Edited
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| As I say I dont know enough.
Im with you 3 seasons without making the play offs would be a disappointment but!!!!!! the club may have a longer term plan ie last year we cleared out Hill, Mclinden, Rinaldi etc and have used more young English players this year. That will naturally take to time become successful if that is the plan.
Just a thought.
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| Quote: wire-quin "Listy-Im surprised you haven't contributed to this thread
Ha. I will later.
I don't think our club can rely on "long term plans" at the moment. He has had 3 years to implement any sort of plan and we have got nowhere at all. Yes, you are right, more young English players have been introduced but if we are missing the playoffs are these players of the required standard. Was it BM who signed the players? Should he be blamed for our inadequate squad?
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| Quote: Dave Lister "Ha. I will later.
I don't think our club can rely on "long term plans" at the moment. He has had 3 years to implement any sort of plan and we have got nowhere at all. Yes, you are right, more young English players have been introduced but if we are missing the playoffs are these players of the required standard. Was it BM who signed the players? Should he be blamed for our inadequate squad?'"
Remember all those people who used to come on here and tell us how if only the team was filled with British and more especially local players the crowds would come flooding in. Where are they now
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| Quote: Snoopy "Remember all those people who used to come on here and tell us how if only the team was filled with British and more especially local players the crowds would come flooding in. Where are they now
Indeed. Fair enough, we have tried blooding a lot of local players, and have often being forced into it, but quite a few are falling a little short of the required standard. It would be silly to write them off after half a season I agree, but it will be interesting to see if they can step up.
I think we need a different strategy other than plundering the lower divisions. And the only way we will be able to attract half decent players will be if we are a team challenging for the playoffs and beyond.
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| We need to get a quality gamebreaker like Marty was at his peak. Unfortunately we dont have a quota spot I guess, so we have a problem. The club can produce athletes but your 'skill' players need to be taught from an early age and those 10/11 year olds who took up the game down here we have coming through are still about 2/3 years away from SL imo
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| Mac has done OK....nothing special, but not terrible either. A top 8 finish, especially after he told me twice that we would win the comp, is the minimum requirement and if we fail in this, then his position may well come under scrutiny. That said, I get the impression that DH is a big fan of the coach and I doubt he would ever either fire him or let him go without a fight.
If you look at the squad we have, I believe that Brian has done all he can with the talent at his disposal. Without the crowds, we don't have the cash to attract the big game players and I still believe that we need an average gate figure of 6,000+ before the funds become available.
Listy, I appreciate that your opinion is that the coach may be the problem, but who would be able to get more out of what we have? If you ask me, the problem isn't Mac........the problem is that DH won't spend speculate to accumilate and therefore, the club will never have the funds to get the players you believe will take us upwards and onwards.
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| and replace him with who!!!
I like Mac and think he is doing a good job with what he ahs to work with
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