Moe,

If I had accused someone here on the forum of ""your'e lying" and "You're not telling anything that is the truth" I feel a moderator would have told me to withdraw it or warned me! We can all have different opinions! that I accept as much as everyone, but why you feel you know better than anyone is beyond me! and now what I was posted was "utter drivel" I feel it is you making a fool of yourself, and it is not needed.

This afternoon I have contacted "3G4US" to seem some clarification, and told them this is after being accused of "telling lies" about them.

You also accuse me of mentioning 3G pitches and the 3G4US lobby as "You're not telling anything that is the truth, but clutching at straws in the blind hope that something will come off for your benefit" what benefit am I going to obtain in lower league clubs possibly adopting 3G pitches? that is even more laughable. I don't work for any 3G pitch supplier or manufacturer. In the early days of artificial pitches there were problems! but they have greatly improved now, and if they help clubs with their financial flow then it is all for the better, be it with games not being cancelled or using the pitch more for other sports.

Moe, as I said disagree with me, which is your right, but please don't accuse me of telling lies and not telling the truth, when you only rely on nothing better than a google search, thanks.

Meanwhile, back at the Thread..........


....fixtures announced today, "away" teams/fans will be looking to arrange transport/accommodation etc as early as possible to save cash....but where do they book?

The potential landlord (and possible investor) is getting itchy feet and whilst the RFL are happy to approve/reject/approve staff at Bradford, they seem incapable of sorting out a bigger banana skin in London.....the RFL have screamed for the attention of the media over the last 4 weeks.....us blowing up would be a PR nightmare for them.
If DH wants to play "chicken" with them again, I'd suggest the next 2 weeks is as good a time as any because come December 2nd, the game will be back in the media wilderness again.

Rightly back on thread! you are completely correct Bradford seem to have the Red Hall seniors running after them left, right & centre! and I don't accept it is just the involvement of the ownership of the ground by the RFL. I just hope someone will kick up a stink before the World Cup Final, the matter of what is happening or not happening in London has to be given higher profile, because as you say after the 2nd December, it will be all just forgotten and I'm sure that Halifax are prepared.

the thought of fax/fev stepping up for 1 season before being relegated is quite ridiculous. They (fairly IMHO) would request protection from relegation....but even the RFL wouldn't grant that to them after rejecting our request.......would they
Championship club chairmen should avoid stepping up in 2014 like the plague....we aren't the only club that is wobbling. ST sales will have taken a hammering as a result of the RLWC........Bradford have little capital and a target of 10,000 sales....the good Dr will soon lose interest if Salford aren't near the top and Wakefield are living hand to mouth......other clubs will spend to avoid the drop......a step up for a ch club would be poison!

I really fail to see how the RFL can release fixtures including a club that has no home ground. It just sounds so utterly unprofessional.

What makes you say Koukash will soon lose interest? That's a completely baseless statement made to suit your angle.

Remains to be seen.......he doesn't come across as a patient man...

Why would season tickets take a hammering? For London yes but the rest of SL the RLWC should be helpful.

ST sales would take 2nd place to RLWC Tickets/Travel/Accommodation etc.....

The delights of Gutterfax's never ending cynicism. You need help.

I'm also not totally convinced with the good Dr! he has no grounding in the game, it was only from his young son watching St Helens, it was rumoured locally that he tried to invest in Saints, but nothing as we know came of it. Then he wanted to take over the two Oldham clubs football and RL, discussions did not go as fast as he wanted so he is now looking at Swinton? and he is still not happy that he just can't spend whatever he wanted to bring success, Koukash wants to develop the ground around the ground with sports bars and a casino, to try and attract the major businessmen who may also then take boxes. At one time when Snape was owner Friday night's were Top at The Weaste, he did it with big money signings. I really hope that Dr Koukash does give it time, he has named one of his horses after Noble and they both goes to races together, but very successful businessman do not like not being at the Top of the Game. We need more like him, but can we allow those with money to buy success over the rest? is that going backwards?

That's so obvious that there's no point in saying it.

However, what do you think they should do as an alternative?

As has been shown in the opus that is Bill Eve's attendance thread, UK Based RL fans have been loathe to attend games that aren't included on their Season Tickets. This RLWC has mobilised an army of fans, many of whom have purchased tickets in the week preceding the games. Normally in November, Season Tickets and next seasons shirts are the main RL purchases, but 300K+ tickets with 250K of these in the heartlands have been taking up this RL income.
There is the flip side of this coin, in that interest in the game will soar and ST's will increase in their numbers...which would be an outstanding result.

As for me needing help.....I wasn't aware that everything had to be rosy to warrant debate on here.