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Quote: Cowgirl Nostalgist "It's an ever decreasing circle though.

London is admittedly a busted flush but with only Catalan flying the flag outside the M62 corridor outmoded stereotypes can never be dispelled.

& that is damaging long term for Rugby League.'"


No it isn't that's just a myth. There is no shortage of interest, sponsors within the games traditional heartland. A heartland that has a bigger population than many EU countries.

I'd love London to work but the truth is I'm more than happy to support a Northern regional game and so are 90% of RL fans.

RL doesn't need a national presence to survive and prosper, but it does need one to to expand and prosper - there is a subtle difference, RL is only failing IF you think expansion is important. The crux is are there enough people in RL who want and are able to make that happen, the answer seems to be no.

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Quote: " A heartland that has a bigger population than many EU countries.'"


What an utter bollox statement. What relevance has that you nugget.

Quote: "I'm more than happy to support a Northern regional game and so are 90% of RL fans.'"


Where have you dreamt that cr4p up

Quote: "The crux is are there enough people in RL who want and are able to make that happen, the answer seems to be no.'"


Does your measure start and stop with crowds? One billionaire could make rugby league succeed across Europe if he wanted. Its not just crowd numbers

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Quote: vastman "sponsors within the games traditional heartland.'"


The game has a truly excellent record of bringing sponsors on board of late after all.

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Quote: Sarf Essex Taff "The game has a truly excellent record of bringing sponsors on board of late after all.'"


Paying sponsors at any rate.

I bet Stobart are still laughing.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: vastman " There is no shortage of interest, sponsors within the games traditional heartland.'"

Sponsors or PARTNERS? There is a massive difference..........RL seems to be attracting plenty of PARTNERS at present.
A sponsor, such as Aviva, pays 5 million a year to have their name attached to the uNION Premiership.....Heineken claim to have invested 100 million pounds in Union over 20 years.....Barclays pay a fortune to have the naming rights to the Premiership, Allianz pay 1.5 million a year for sponsorship and naming rights at Sarries, Bradford are getting 300k a year for naming rights and sponsorship.....02 pay the RFU 5 million a year for the shirt sponsorship of a side that plays 10 times a year....gillette paid 50k for the england shirt sponsorship....for 3 years icon_eek.gif

PARTNERS on the other hand do a lot of contra work....cross database marketing/promotion etc with very little cash changing hands.....foxy bingo and heinz bigsoup are PARTNERS.

If you think removing the London team from SL will enhance the attractiveness of the SL naming rights to a national/international brand, then you need to have your bumps felt pal........Tetley sponsoring the Challenge Cup for an undisclosed sum pretty much sums up the state of RL in the UK at present....I'd be stunned if they are paying anything more than 50k a year tops. The "we call it cider but CAMRA don't agree" Championship deal is worth a lot less than 50k a year and the Marriott hotel>RLWC 2013 deal is a no cash contra deal......teams stay free, marriott get coverage.

Partners will always be keen....we have about 100k loyal RL supporters and there willalways be someone who wants to market to them....but a sit stands at present, not many want to pay up front to do so.

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If Featherstone think they can survive on 4000 home support a game plus travelling fans they are mistaken. They would need a wealthy benefactor to pour £ms into the Rovers.
Wakefield are getting there with crowds of 8100 last year and a first game att of 9200 or so. Glover said he lost money last year but is now around breaking even.
I really hope the Broncos stay, as a presence in the Capital is essential for the sake of the sport and its profile.
The despondency of the fans is awful to read and the crowd of 1800 is terrible.
Where the money would come from to rescue the club I don't know but something has to change.

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I've never bought the theory that Rugby League needs London to get more sponsors or income. Where did that ever start? I don't know of any company that has sponsored/partnered the Super League/RFL/Challenge Cup that were a London company. JJB, Stobart, Tetley's, Leeds Met etc etc aren't London businesses are they?

Yes, London is the biggest city in the country and a major player in the business world but what does that actually have to do with Rugby League? Not a lot really. I don't buy that London make the profile of the game any bigger either. Most people now have access to Sky TV or the like and have found the sport that way rather than because of London Broncos.

This London franchise is dead and buried. If someone with the right money came along and started a separate club and had a franchise then who knows but this London club is a wounded animal just waiting for that lethal injection. The away fans don't want to know and the home fans could fit in one room.

R.I.P London Broncos (but not Rugby League in London).

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Quote: gutterfax "Sponsors or PARTNERS? There is a massive difference..........RL seems to be attracting plenty of PARTNERS at present.
A sponsor, such as Aviva, pays 5 million a year to have their name attached to the uNION Premiership.....Heineken claim to have invested 100 million pounds in Union over 20 years.....Barclays pay a fortune to have the naming rights to the Premiership, Allianz pay 1.5 million a year for sponsorship and naming rights at Sarries, Bradford are getting 300k a year for naming rights and sponsorship.....02 pay the RFU 5 million a year for the shirt sponsorship of a side that plays 10 times a year....gillette paid 50k for the england shirt sponsorship....for 3 years
Tetley's Challenge Cup for GBP800,000 p/a.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: nadera78 "Tetley's Challenge Cup for GBP800,000 p/a.'"

Linkey Linkey...........

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Quote: Moe Lester "
This London franchise is dead and buried. If someone with the right money came along and started a separate club and had a franchise then who knows but this London club is a wounded animal just waiting for that lethal injection. The away fans don't want to know and the home fans could fit in one room.

R.I.P London Broncos (but not Rugby League in London).'"


spot on I'm sad to admit

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: nadera78 "Tetley's Challenge Cup for GBP800,000 p/a.'"

In fact....utter bollox.
rlhttp://www.sportspromedia.com/news/tetleys_to_title_sponsor_challenge_cup/rl
Partnership is a whole different ball game to Sponsorship......I stand by my assertion that very little cash will have changed hands...
TotalRL is the only place I have seen 800k...and that was for 2 years....not per year and that was unubstantiated.

If the RLF had nailed on 800k a year they'd have blasted it out to everyone....even 400k a year.......I suspect there's more data sharing going on than exchanging of cheques.

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London Broncos aren’t about to go into administration are they. You have a wealthy backer who is prepared to lose millions. If SKY took on this mantle how would it increase attendances ?

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Quote: Tigerade "London Broncos aren’t about to go into administration are they. You have a wealthy backer who is prepared to lose millions. If SKY took on this mantle how would it increase attendances ?'"


The thought of us having "administration" made me chuckle.

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If the presence of a club in London is vital for the viability of SL how come we still have no sponsor?

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I thought Selco was our sponsor their name is on the front of the shirt.

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